PVI adding "touch" to eink

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by TadW

Harry, I hate splitting that hair (hi Nat )), but your original question was not whether the iLiad could support pressure information (IF you had the right stylus and IF the software supported it), but how the iLiad screen differed from the PVI screen. Clearly, there is a difference, in that the iLiad would require auxiliary devices to receive this information (by itself, it knows nothing about pressure), whereas the PVI screen has the technology built-in.

I completely agree with you that there is a difference. The PVI screen senses pressure from the screen itself; in the iLiad the pressure information is supplied by the stylus. No arguments there.

[Jason]

Portalinks Epaper on Windows CE OS -- Part I
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[moz]

The question is interestingly phrased. I said yes, even though my reading experience will hopefully be completely unaffected by a touch screen. What will dramatically improve is my writing experience... which currently doesn't work at all. I imagine if I got the right pen I could write on my liseuse, but quite probably only once.

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by moz

The question is interestingly phrased. I said yes, even though my reading experience will hopefully be completely unaffected by a touch screen. What will dramatically improve is my writing experience... which currently doesn't work at all. I imagine if I got the right pen I could write on my liseuse, but quite probably only once.

actually i *already* have touch screen and writing capabilities on my eb1150 (but not handwriting recognition), but i voted "yes" because i found them unexpectedly useful : touch screen allows me to easily look up a word in the dictionary simply by touching the word (i can use the stylus to avoid getting fingerprints on the screen) and the note-taking feature is brilliant when i am reading a PG text which i have formatted myself : i can mark all the OCR errors or incorrect punctuation or format problems as i am reading, to correct them later ; then i can use the "search" feature to search for markups, and jump from one error to the next. it saves a lot of time and effort. i would love for my future e-ink liseuse to also have these features.

[nekokami]

I'm currently writing a paper about the pedagogical value of annotating text. Dennis Sumara makes a compelling case for reading and annotating as a focal exercise worth practicing. I've never been able to bring myself to feel comfortable writing in paper books, but I've found I love scribbling on my ebooks (though I can only currently do that with the PDF ones, which have their own limitations). That's why I keep hoping something like DotReader will eventually be ported to the iLiad. (Except that the DotReader website is still down after a week, leading me to wonder if that project is dead.)

Anyhoo, my point is that responding while reading is, for many, an integral part of reading, so having some kind of input can be seen as critical. I happen to prefer pen input, though many would be happy with the sort of keyboard in the Kindle, I'm sure.

[Walk Broad]

Originally Posted by Taylor514ce

By "don't work", I assume they mean "don't work well". I've owned a couple of Tablet PCs. Handwriting recognition is something that has to work perfectly, or it isn't worth it. At first you think it does, you start to use it, and then things start to go "Point Blimfark", to borrow a phrase recently exposed here.
They "don't work".

Although this is for reading devices, having owned and used tablet pcs for 3 years, I have to argue they "do work".

Nothing is perfect, put using the TIP in XP Tablet Edition and writing in cursive gives me a 90 - 95% accuracy rate with no training.

And any hand writing recognition enabled software (like OneNote) is 100% since it is capturing exactly what YOU write. WYSIWYG.

[Dylrob]

One thing I'm curious about is that if the basic technology here could also be used in the "readius-like" device. Logically a fully flexible touchscreen would be too difficult right now, but I'm thinking that maybe you could embed sensors into the rigid backing?

[axel77]

I vote for a definite yes.

A killer feature would be to be able to flip pages / zoom and pan with the touch of a finger just like the iPhone picture viewer.

The touchscreeen must however be sensitively enough to allow handwriting with a pen.

A "real" touchscreen would allow us to get away of this WACOM stuff, with their redicolous pricing politics, and its pervasive writing gap.

[nekokami]

Originally Posted by nekokami

I'm currently writing a paper about the pedagogical value of annotating text....

A link to the final paper is posted here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25173

[basschick]

heck, i can't read shopping lists i wrote an hour ago unless i print them

Originally Posted by HarryT

It can never "work perfectly", I don't think - or at least not if your handwriting is as bad as mine. I can't read my own handwriting a week after I've written something, so I wouldn't expect a machine to be able to .

Seriously, I think that "perfection" is a rather unrealistic goal.

[axel77]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I can't read my own handwriting a week after I've written something, so I wouldn't expect a machine to be able to .

I do expect machines to be able to do things I can't.