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Old 02-07-2014, 08:31 AM   #31
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Hmmm ... it's an interesting problem. If you look at the way we sign up to Smashwords and Amazon etc., there's not a lot of verification going on that I'm aware of. Although in those cases they are acting as distributors, the submitter still bears the full responsibility for what they submit.

In the offending website situation, I believe, the administrator should have attempted contact with the author using details available NOT obtained from the unsolicited contact. eg: Follow the links from the Smashwords page etc. to the website or Facebook page and send a message from there. This is pretty similar to the advice to type URLs for your bank and PayPal etc. rather than clicking on links in emails. Don't trust what you didn't solicit, verify it independently.
Good point. There is email and/or twitter, facebook, etc. out there so it's not as if people are cut off from contacting others. I'd think most authors would be glad someone is making the effort to verify that they were the one who had contacted the other person's site rather than just take it at face value.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:33 PM   #32
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Hmmm ... it's an interesting problem. If you look at the way we sign up to Smashwords and Amazon etc., there's not a lot of verification going on that I'm aware of. Although in those cases they are acting as distributors, the submitter still bears the full responsibility for what they submit.
Amazon is notorious for their laissez-faire policy but Smashwords runs submissions through human verification for sure.

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Old 02-07-2014, 05:39 PM   #33
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Why not ask them what they want for proof? You are you, you can prove you are, and you may even want to consider letting the audio stand. The comments were favorable towards you writing. Could be good marketing. Just at thought...
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:10 PM   #34
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It looks like they'll accept the Smashwords screenprint as evidence that I'm me. At this point I've told them I'd be interested in negotiating for the return of the audio -- I actually think they did a good job on it.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:53 PM   #35
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And you should be able to sell the audio, too, right?-)
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:46 AM   #36
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Cromag, I didn't know that you're a published author! Congratulations!

Something isn't clear to me. Did the pirates make clear what your name and the name of the work are?
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:04 AM   #37
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Cromag, I didn't know that you're a published author! Congratulations!

Something isn't clear to me. Did the pirates make clear what your name and the name of the work are?
His name (as I recall) was on the story and the story title was unchanged as well, but the issue was more (I think) that it was done without getting permission from the actual author (cromag). Apparently someone misrepresented themselves as him and the story was posted as an audio file without him being aware of it.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:10 AM   #38
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Yep, crich70 summed it up. The audio was actually very professionally produced and I was properly credited, except for the payment.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:24 PM   #39
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I actually feel honored to be pirated. As one wise man once told me, "If you're not worth pirating, you're also not worth reading." So I look at it this way. The more someone pirates my works, the more complimented I feel. Especially if someone did to me what they did to the OP. I mean, that takes effort and dedication to do things like that. So if they were willing to spend their precious time to create that audiobook, I'd personally be flattered. So you lose a little money because of the pirate. So what? A true author isn't in this to make money. They're in it for the fun, and to entertain people along the way. Because if you're in it for the fame and money, you're in it for all the wrong reasons.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:51 PM   #40
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Yeah, I'm talking with them now about putting it up properly. I may go the "free" route since several friends and relatives were impressed by it (not to mention the numbers of "thumbs up" it got at YouTube). I'll be sacrificing some potential sales, but it may pay off if it drives potential readers to check out other titles -- as a piddly little Indie I haven't found too many effective (and inoffensive) ways to spread the word about my work.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:39 PM   #41
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Okay, all is resolved. The audio is back up -- this time, authorized by the actual author.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:11 AM   #42
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Good news, cromag. I hope you see some benefit from it, even if it is indirectly.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:34 AM   #43
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Okay, all is resolved. The audio is back up -- this time, authorized by the actual author.
Glad to hear, I might have to give it a listen later this week.
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Okay, all is resolved. The audio is back up -- this time, authorized by the actual author.
Congratulations. Keep us updated. I know I want to see what happens.

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Old 02-22-2014, 03:49 PM   #45
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It's great to know everything fell back into place.
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