JetBook - Page 3

JSWolf · 03-26-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by leandroide

Well, at least these people don't apply an abusive Euro-Dollar exchange rate

See here:

http://www.ectaco.com.es/products/ECTACO-jetBook/

No need. The price itself is abusive.

Alisa · 03-26-2008, 01:51 PM

The Kindle comparison has similar untruths. As for the weight, yeah, it's lighter. The screen is also an inch smaller. I don't get why they didn't put in a screen at least the size of the competition. It's not like LCDs are horribly expensive. They might not do too badly with this product if they priced it competitively and gave people something they really want: a bigger screen.

Nate the great · 03-26-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

It actually does look pretty good... and it has some unique features like translations. But, I would need to see if the screen compares to an eInk screen. They claim it looks better than eInk and the batter life is better than Sony's reader. I wish they gave a 30day money back... I might order it just to try/review it. Perhaps Natch or someone can get a demo, review unit.

And .txt isn't bad... would be about the same as RTF right. Espesially if you can control the font via the reader rather than embedding font commands in the RTF.

BOb

As I said above, I have an OEM version. Yes, the screen is as good as Eink. In some ways it is better than the screen on my Kindle (or the 500 I used to have). In the end it would come down to personal preference.

P.S. In the email, they offered to let me buy one to review, and they would let me return it in less than 30 days. I'm not interested because the device isn't enough better than the one I have.

JSWolf · 03-26-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alisa

The Kindle comparison has similar untruths. As for the weight, yeah, it's lighter. The screen is also an inch smaller. I don't get why they didn't put in a screen at least the size of the competition. It's not like LCDs are horribly expensive. They might not do too badly with this product if they priced it competitively and gave people something they really want: a bigger screen.

Feel free to point out what they got wrong about the Kindle. I'm sure they fudged things there just like for the 505.

Alisa · 03-26-2008, 01:57 PM

So, Nate, does their claim about battery life hold up? They say it'll get 11,500 page turns on a charge compared to 7,500 for the Sony and Kindle.

Nate the great · 03-26-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alisa

So, Nate, does their claim about battery life hold up? They say it'll get 11,500 page turns on a charge compared to 7,500 for the Sony and Kindle.

I think it's an exaggeration. But I don't know for sure because I haven't tried to run down the battery.

Alisa · 03-26-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Feel free to point out what they got wrong about the Kindle. I'm sure they fudged things there just like for the 505.

Well to start with there's the same blurb about page turning for both Sony and Kindle which isn't true in either case:

"1-1.5 sec page turning time ( screen update) through black and white "splash" on the screen. After 40-50 pages of reading eyes get tired due to this effect. Number of artifacts from the previous page left on the next page, causing "dirty" marks."

Then they say there's no justification setting when there is.

Like Sony, they say you can only get books through the proprietary store when there are vast sources of books available free and for purchase just like the Jetbook.

They list the mp3 player, but not that it has Audible support.

All in all, it seems the treatment of Kindle was pretty much the same as Sony.

JSWolf · 03-26-2008, 05:07 PM

Basically, they botched the comparison and provided lots of 1/2 truths and mis-truths by either being wrong or sin of omission. I think what they are trying to do is sell an inferior product and trying to make it look better then two superior products.

Barcey · 03-26-2008, 05:51 PM

@Nate
When they say "Reflective LCD" do you know if they mean Cholesteric LCD (ChLCD)? It might explain the price if that's the case.

pilotbob · 03-26-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barcey

@Nate
When they say "Reflective LCD" do you know if they mean Cholesteric LCD (ChLCD)? It might explain the price if that's the case.

I think "reflective" means it is NOT backlight. It states that it is a TFT screen.

BOb

Nate the great · 03-26-2008, 06:39 PM

I finally found the info we had. This is the screen:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=m218a

DaleDe · 03-26-2008, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

I finally found the info we had. This is the screen:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=m218a

thanks for the link. I have added this to the wiki as reflective LCD. By the way a reflective display is also the technology used on the OLPC project.

Dale

wgrimm · 03-26-2008, 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=Nate the great;164136]I got a reply from Ectaco. The Jetbook supports PDF, TXT, GIF, JPG, MP3. They are working on an ebook format. I replied with a suggestion that they add FBReader.
QUOTE]

But how WELL does it support pdf, is my question. I have tried the Palm TX, the Sony, etc. To date, the best pdf support I have found in a mobile device (for standard pdf's distilled for the desktop) is the nokia n810. It's small enough to carry around easily, and desktop-sized pdf's are very legible on it. Plays movies well, too. Wish it would read .chm's without decompiling.

Sort of annoying- carry a clunky laptop around, and you are able to watch movies, read pdf's, connect to the net. Can't do all of this with just one of the smaller devices.....

I am still very disappointed with the Sony reader's "pdf support." When are they going to fix this problem? I bought deskUNPDF, but conversion to .lrf with this software still has formatting problems....

Nate the great · 03-26-2008, 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=wgrimm;164456]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

I got a reply from Ectaco. The Jetbook supports PDF, TXT, GIF, JPG, MP3. They are working on an ebook format. I replied with a suggestion that they add FBReader.
QUOTE]

But how WELL does it support pdf, is my question. I have tried the Palm TX, the Sony, etc. To date, the best pdf support I have found in a mobile device (for standard pdf's distilled for the desktop) is the nokia n810. It's small enough to carry around easily, and desktop-sized pdf's are very legible on it. Plays movies well, too. Wish it would read .chm's without decompiling.

Sort of annoying- carry a clunky laptop around, and you are able to watch movies, read pdf's, connect to the net. Can't do all of this with just one of the smaller devices.....

I am still very disappointed with the Sony reader's "pdf support." When are they going to fix this problem? I bought deskUNPDF, but conversion to .lrf with this software still has formatting problems....

The PDF support is pretty good. I've already posted my opinion. Look here:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...st+impressions

pilotbob · 03-26-2008, 10:51 PM

Another thing that looks nice on this device, after reading the manual is the file maintenance. From the device you can copy files from the SD card to the internal memory, you can rename files, and you can delete them. That's pretty sweet.

This actually seems like a pretty good device. If only they supported Mobi files. Although, getting LIT and converting is still an option.

BOb

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03-26-2008, 01:51 PM	#32
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	The Kindle comparison has similar untruths. As for the weight, yeah, it's lighter. The screen is also an inch smaller. I don't get why they didn't put in a screen at least the size of the competition. It's not like LCDs are horribly expensive. They might not do too badly with this product if they priced it competitively and gave people something they really want: a bigger screen.

03-26-2008, 01:57 PM	#35
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	So, Nate, does their claim about battery life hold up? They say it'll get 11,500 page turns on a charge compared to 7,500 for the Sony and Kindle.

03-26-2008, 05:07 PM	#38
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,131 Karma: 144284184 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Basically, they botched the comparison and provided lots of 1/2 truths and mis-truths by either being wrong or sin of omission. I think what they are trying to do is sell an inferior product and trying to make it look better then two superior products.

03-26-2008, 05:51 PM	#39
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3	@Nate When they say "Reflective LCD" do you know if they mean Cholesteric LCD (ChLCD)? It might explain the price if that's the case.

03-26-2008, 06:39 PM	#41
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	I finally found the info we had. This is the screen: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=m218a

03-26-2008, 09:21 PM	#43
wgrimm Addict Posts: 230 Karma: 334908 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: multiple	[QUOTE=Nate the great;164136]I got a reply from Ectaco. The Jetbook supports PDF, TXT, GIF, JPG, MP3. They are working on an ebook format. I replied with a suggestion that they add FBReader. QUOTE] But how WELL does it support pdf, is my question. I have tried the Palm TX, the Sony, etc. To date, the best pdf support I have found in a mobile device (for standard pdf's distilled for the desktop) is the nokia n810. It's small enough to carry around easily, and desktop-sized pdf's are very legible on it. Plays movies well, too. Wish it would read .chm's without decompiling. Sort of annoying- carry a clunky laptop around, and you are able to watch movies, read pdf's, connect to the net. Can't do all of this with just one of the smaller devices..... I am still very disappointed with the Sony reader's "pdf support." When are they going to fix this problem? I bought deskUNPDF, but conversion to .lrf with this software still has formatting problems....

03-26-2008, 10:51 PM	#45
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Another thing that looks nice on this device, after reading the manual is the file maintenance. From the device you can copy files from the SD card to the internal memory, you can rename files, and you can delete them. That's pretty sweet. This actually seems like a pretty good device. If only they supported Mobi files. Although, getting LIT and converting is still an option. BOb

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