New Basic Kindle arrived today - Page 3

Sauyadav · 04-11-2013, 11:23 AM

I love paperwhite but I prefer using my nokia phone for night reading, although it has very small screen compared to PW and my android phone, it has lowest of brightness without loosing visibility (reading on lower light levels 1-5 isn't wonderful on PW for me). Kindle is awesome in daylight, just like paper and manga on it is more enjoyable than on laptop screen.

Blossom · 04-11-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauyadav

I love paperwhite but I prefer using my nokia phone for night reading, although it has very small screen compared to PW and my android phone, it has lowest of brightness without loosing visibility (reading on lower light levels 1-5 isn't wonderful on PW for me). Kindle is awesome in daylight, just like paper and manga on it is more enjoyable than on laptop screen.

Try reading on 8 in the dark. It's what I use and it's perfect. 5-1 is too low and gives me eye strain.

stutzj · 04-11-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

All the PWs I had sucked. I'll never buy another eInk reader with ANY kind of additional layer that sits on top of the eInk screen. I prefer an iPhone or iPad for low light reading. IMO, eInk screens were never designed for nor intended for low light reading, and any attempt to modify them for that is going to result in a diminished quality of reading. What we need is another type of screen that can be lighted without degradation yet miserly when it comes to power consumption. Something other than an LCD or eInk. I know of nothing yet that has been invented and/or marketed that can achieve this. I doubt we will ever see an eInk that looks anywhere near as good in artificial, low light as it does in daylight.

I agree with Jack. I had the paper white for about three weeks but found that I missed my Kindle 4. I ended up exchanging for the Kindle Basic and have not regretted that choice. The contrast is better in natural light and the text seems closer to the screen and easier to read and isn't buried beneath layers of glass. It just feels more like ink on a page to me.

stutzj · 04-11-2013, 03:41 PM

Actually a big reason why I decided to go back to the Kindle Basic was the green light blotches that everybody complained about on these forums when I first got mine back in October. I'm surprised that many people who had issues with it have changed their view and seem to love it now. It seemed like a regular PW hate fest around here back when it first came out. What brought you around? Can someone speak to that. I'm just curious since I haven't on these forums since October.

I don't think the PW is a bad device, there was a lot I actually like about it and haven't sworn it off for good (my Mom got one a while back and it works really well for her). I'd love to hear anybody's opinion on why they changed their mind.

Blossom · 04-11-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stutzj

I'm just curious since I haven't on these forums since October.

I don't think the PW is a bad device, there was a lot I actually like about it and haven't sworn it off for good (my Mom got one a while back and it works really well for her). I'd love to hear anybody's opinion on why they changed their mind.

Alot of firmware updates, ability to use custom fonts and better QC control. You might want to give it another try. I love mine and would never go back.

AnemicOak · 04-11-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stutzj

the text seems closer to the screen and easier to read and isn't buried beneath layers of glass.

This is what had me sending mine back and going back to my Kindle Touch. I kept getting distracted reading on the PW.

Blossom · 04-11-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

This is what had me sending mine back and going back to my Kindle Touch. I kept getting distracted reading on the PW.

What light setting were you using? When the light up enough you can't tell the difference. It's only when it's way down you notice the extra layer.

Elysium · 04-11-2013, 09:45 PM

I don't even notice the extra layer when I'm reading on an extremely low setting. The screen is always crisp and uniform. :\

Xiaopanda · 04-12-2013, 01:41 AM

I've tried and happily used most forms of e-reader - from Palm to Laptop to Tablet to LCD ereaders to E-Ink devices going as far back as the Kindle V1 and even the Haveron at one point. The Paperwhite is Superior to all I've tried, and the integrated light is a ++ bonus - Like many others I leave it on all the time - it makes the page that much whiter and I keep it at a level that it doesn't change the screen when I move from bright light into shadows - about 11 - 12 .

Go the paperwhite. You will not regret it.

joblack · 04-12-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gal_amy

Just received my basic Kindle today. I love that I can read outside, but I didn't realize in the house, in the evening I would need an external light.

Now I realize the difference between it and the Paperwhite.

How many here use the frontlight feature and what do you think of it?

Amy

I disabled it right away.

BeccaPrice · 04-12-2013, 06:22 PM

If you were going to disable the front light, why did you get the front lit version in the first place?

(I love my paperwhite - and it has no color blotches that I can see)

gal_amy · 04-13-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stutzj

Actually a big reason why I decided to go back to the Kindle Basic was the green light blotches that everybody complained about on these forums when I first got mine back in October.
I don't think the PW is a bad device, there was a lot I actually like about it and haven't sworn it off for good (my Mom got one a while back and it works really well for her). I'd love to hear anybody's opinion on why they changed their mind.

Does your mom's have green blotches?

There are some small blotches on the bottom of the screen, but they aren't green.

They don't bother me, though.

gal_amy · 04-16-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by joblack

I disabled it right away.

How is that possible?

Katsunami · 04-16-2013, 05:51 PM

Officially, you can't disable the light, but if you set it to 0, it will be so weak that you can't actually see it except in complete darkness. If I remember correctly, there is a hack that can be installed after you jailbreak the Kindle, and then you can actually disable the LEDs completely.

A quick search found this:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=200266

Perform at your own risk. I've never jailbroken my Kindle or tested hacks such as this one.

Jack Tingle · 04-20-2013, 04:35 PM

KPW vs. Non-frontlit Kindle:
In my case, a K3, which is close to the current basic Kindle.

Mezzo-mezzo. I like the other features of the PW, faster processor, etc. I miss the page turn buttons on the K3. The frontlit screen is a nice-to-have under some conditions. I'm not sure it would be a deciding factor. The $50 price difference didn't matter that much to me, but for many people, I doubt it would be money well spent.

YMMV.
Jack Tingle

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04-11-2013, 11:23 AM	#31
Sauyadav Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: India Device: Kobo h2o, iPad mini, Note 2	I love paperwhite but I prefer using my nokia phone for night reading, although it has very small screen compared to PW and my android phone, it has lowest of brightness without loosing visibility (reading on lower light levels 1-5 isn't wonderful on PW for me). Kindle is awesome in daylight, just like paper and manga on it is more enjoyable than on laptop screen.

04-11-2013, 03:41 PM	#34
stutzj Zealot Posts: 106 Karma: 305794 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: Kobo Glo HD, PW2, Kindle 5(black)	Actually a big reason why I decided to go back to the Kindle Basic was the green light blotches that everybody complained about on these forums when I first got mine back in October. I'm surprised that many people who had issues with it have changed their view and seem to love it now. It seemed like a regular PW hate fest around here back when it first came out. What brought you around? Can someone speak to that. I'm just curious since I haven't on these forums since October. I don't think the PW is a bad device, there was a lot I actually like about it and haven't sworn it off for good (my Mom got one a while back and it works really well for her). I'd love to hear anybody's opinion on why they changed their mind.

04-11-2013, 09:45 PM	#38
Elysium Nameless Being	I don't even notice the extra layer when I'm reading on an extremely low setting. The screen is always crisp and uniform. :\

04-12-2013, 01:41 AM	#39
Xiaopanda Addict Posts: 230 Karma: 1290 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Device: Kindle Paperwhite	I've tried and happily used most forms of e-reader - from Palm to Laptop to Tablet to LCD ereaders to E-Ink devices going as far back as the Kindle V1 and even the Haveron at one point. The Paperwhite is Superior to all I've tried, and the integrated light is a ++ bonus - Like many others I leave it on all the time - it makes the page that much whiter and I keep it at a level that it doesn't change the screen when I move from bright light into shadows - about 11 - 12 . Go the paperwhite. You will not regret it.

04-12-2013, 06:22 PM	#41
BeccaPrice Wizard Posts: 2,146 Karma: 11174187 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Sony 350, K3-3G, K4SO, KPW	If you were going to disable the front light, why did you get the front lit version in the first place? (I love my paperwhite - and it has no color blotches that I can see)

04-16-2013, 05:51 PM	#44
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	Officially, you can't disable the light, but if you set it to 0, it will be so weak that you can't actually see it except in complete darkness. If I remember correctly, there is a hack that can be installed after you jailbreak the Kindle, and then you can actually disable the LEDs completely. A quick search found this: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=200266 Perform at your own risk. I've never jailbroken my Kindle or tested hacks such as this one.

04-20-2013, 04:35 PM	#45
Jack Tingle Punctuation Fetishist Posts: 557 Karma: 1070000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Bluest Commonwealth In East America Device: Kindle PW, Nexus 7 (2013), Galaxy S5 phone, Galaxy Tab 4 8.0	KPW vs. Non-frontlit Kindle: In my case, a K3, which is close to the current basic Kindle. Mezzo-mezzo. I like the other features of the PW, faster processor, etc. I miss the page turn buttons on the K3. The frontlit screen is a nice-to-have under some conditions. I'm not sure it would be a deciding factor. The $50 price difference didn't matter that much to me, but for many people, I doubt it would be money well spent. YMMV. Jack Tingle

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