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Old 09-07-2012, 02:22 PM   #31
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Sorry, but as the Kobo Touch was released before the Kindle Touch, KT goes to the winner which is Kobo Touch. So...

4th = Kindle Touch
Give it a rest.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:23 PM   #32
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Does this mean that previous K4s will get more fonts too? How in the heck is this going to work?
The $69 Kindle isn't getting more fonts.



Only the Paperlight (it's not paper white without the light) is getting more fonts.
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The KT in the Kindle forum is the Kindle Touch. We don't abbreviate other brands in here. The K4 is what I own. The new K4 will be probably be something else. I am thinking K4B because the only change is the Bezel.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:58 PM   #34
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The KT in the Kindle forum is the Kindle Touch. We don't abbreviate other brands in here. The K4 is what I own. The new K4 will be probably be something else. I am thinking K4B because the only change is the Bezel.
Yes, and besides the Kobo Touch was a mess. The company was nice and they tried to get the FW to operate correctly, but they were way over their heads. I bought one in April of 2011 and tried to work with them in beta testing the FW changes, as did SCION, but they just made it worse. It might have been liked by the Canadians but only because it was a Canadian company and the new Kindles were difficult to get there. Both SCION and I returned our Kobo Touches before the return period elapsed.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:01 PM   #35
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Sorry, but as the Kobo Touch was released before the Kindle Touch, KT goes to the winner which is Kobo Touch. So...

4th = Kindle Touch
4th = K4, which runs 4.x firmware. 5th = K5 (Touch) which runs 5.x firmware.

Using the MobileRead search function will find that searching "K5" finds the Kindle Touch, but most hits for "KT" find the Kobo Touch. Redefining KT to also mean "Kindle Touch" only adds to the confusion when trying to do MobileRead searches.

Is there a way to restrict MobileRead searches to ONLY this forum, so that using "KT" for its special localized definition would find useful results?

Which number to use when referring to a kindle (6-inch eink) model is defined by its major firmware version number. The Kindle Touch runs 5.x firmware, hence its K5 designation. Whatever firmware the new kindles use will follow this same naming convention (especially in the Dev Corner, where logical conventions take precedence over popular opinion). Of course, in THIS forum, definitions are subject to popular opinion and may conflict with terminology as commonly used in other forums and offsite resources.
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The KT in the Kindle forum is the Kindle Touch. We don't abbreviate other brands in here. The K4 is what I own. The new K4 will be probably be something else. I am thinking K4B because the only change is the Bezel.
Will it be running 4.x firmware? Of course, you are free to call it a "purple cow" if you wish, but the devs will call it a Kx, where "x" is the major firmware version, even when participating in this forum.
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Will it be running 4.x firmware? Of course, you are free to call it a "purple cow" if you wish, but the devs will call it a Kx, where "x" is the major firmware version, even when participating in this forum.
Yes they are the same in every way including firmware just the bezel is black. That's why I said K4B B being for Black.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:26 PM   #38
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With two K4's I like Blossoms idea of K4B (black) and K4S (silver) to differentiate them. I guess this is the first time Amazon used an existing FW on a new device, and thus the first time we have encountered this situation of Kx (in this case K4) not being specific enough. It is of course specific to the FW but not to the actual device.
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Is there a way to restrict MobileRead searches to ONLY this forum, so that using "KT" for its special localized definition would find useful results?
Yep. :thumbup: Either by doing an advanced search, or by selecting the "search this forum" link in the lower top horizontal menu bar.
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Yep. :thumbup: Either by doing an advanced search, or by selecting the "search this forum" link in the lower top horizontal menu bar.
That's how I do it when I need to find a thread. Sometimes Google works better.


You can't make people all use K5 I've tried they use KT more than anything in here. Some say K4T so you just gotta thank Amazon for mixing it all up.
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Yes they are the same in every way including firmware just the bezel is black. That's why I said K4B B being for Black.
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With two K4's I like Blossoms idea of K4B (black) and K4S (silver) to differentiate them. I guess this is the first time Amazon used an existing FW on a new device, and thus the first time we have encountered this situation of Kx (in this case K4) not being specific enough. It is of course specific to the FW but not to the actual device.
Calling it a K4B would make sense then, like the DX and DXG that both run the same firmware.
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Yep. :thumbup: Either by doing an advanced search, or by selecting the "search this forum" link in the lower top horizontal menu bar.
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You can't make people all use K5 I've tried they use KT more than anything in here. Some say K4T so you just gotta thank Amazon for mixing it all up.
The K5/KT always had 5.x firmware so should have been a K5 from the start. It was mixed up because there was a lot of speculative discussion here about the K4 and K5/KT before anybody even had one of them. The confusion was because they were announced so close together.
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The K5/KT always had 5.x firmware so should have been a K5 from the start. It was mixed up because it there was a lot of speculative discussion here about the K4 and K5/KT before anybody even had one of them. The confusion was because they were announced so close together.
At least no one will try to take KPW LOL. I still find the name really odd. I'm always correcting those who call the Kindle Touch a K4. I'm one who goes by firmware but others go by generation.
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