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Or maybe we should just give special exemptions to Disney so they don't drag every other work into eternal limbo with them. As it is, nothing will enter the public domain until 2019. |
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The problem with the US and Berne is the US doesn't follow Berne anyways. Look at all the items that would be P.D. under Berne that is still under copyright in the US (and they want more!).
The 1923 cutoff in the US is strictly artificial, and has nothing to do with Berne. It's the extensions that are so disgusting, and they're nowhere in Berne. (And life + 70 was strictly due to US lobbying, not a native grown request from the EU itself. And besides there is no reason the Eu couldn't change the term back to Life + 50, it wouldn't void the Berne treaty...) |
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But I think the better answer is to have DIFFERENT terms for copyrights held by an individual and those held by another legal entity. Something like, the individual gets life+28 or something, and the corporate entity gets 28 years renewable once. The actual numbers are arguable, but the idea is, we do need incentive for the creation of good IP but we also need to bring us back to the idea that the reason for doing so is to benefit society by actually making it part of the public domain sometime. ApK Last edited by ApK; 07-13-2012 at 11:10 AM. |
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I don't think it's a waste of time to provide your opinion into the political process. Then again I don't think it's a waste of time to vote even if you know that the party you're voting for will not get elected.
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This is very important to realize. Major parties/candidates do analyze the data from 3rd party voting to find out what trends are popular. Even if you think your party doesn't have a prayer of winning the election, by voting for your ideals you can influence those that do win the election.
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Quite. Every material change contravenes some current law, treaty, agreement or tradition. How could progress ever happen if advocating change was always seen as a waste of time?
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I don't think it's about how good you are. The majority of the money is made in the first few years after release. The works that are still making money after 28 years have already earned enough money to compensate the creators. The law shouldn't be written to handle the most exceptional circumstance. It should be written to handle the majority of creative works and balanced against the common good.
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That is the problem with the present copyright law, it puts everything in the same boat, when a flottila would have made more sense. |
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For example, the US government actually refused to abide by one aspect of Berne: Certain works should have been offered public domain, but because the US did not properly adhere to Berne, some works were protected in the nation of origin, but were in the public domain in the US. In 2011, the SCOTUS ruled that the US had an obligation to abide by the treaty, and those works would be removed from the public domain and protected again by copyright, until such protections expire in the nation of origin. Quote:
Each nation is allowed to implement copyright in its own way, as long as a) it honors the protections and durations of the other signatory nations, and b) it adheres to the minimum of life + 50. Extensions are routine, and have been added many times over the course of history. The constitutionality of the extensions was thoroughly reviewed in Eldred v Ashcroft. |
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David Foster Wallace published Infinite Jest in 1996, and committed suicide in 2008.
I'm pretty sure his family appreciates both the income, as well as control of what he wrote -- including the right to publish or not publish any notes, diaries and unfinished work -- after his death. |
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