Nook Tablet Locked Down!

[luqmaninbmore]

Originally Posted by taosaur

Very few Android devices allow outside apps, including the Nook Color.

This is simply not true. The majority of android devices (including phones) DO allow outside apps.

[J. Strnad]

I kind of think Amazon is ALSO hubrisy, you know? There's not really a criticism here against B&N that isn't also applicable to Amazon.

Oh, you're absolutely right about that. Amazon is very "hubrisy." But they are #1. You expect #1 to be that way.

What surprises me about B&N is that they behave AS IF they were #1. They don't seem to realize that they aren't the big gun anymore, and their business strategy needs to change accordingly.

BTW, I didn't like the original nook...didn't feel right in my hand, was too heavy. Love the keyboard Kindle. Different strokes.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by J. Strnad

What surprises me about B&N is that they behave AS IF they were #1. They don't seem to realize that they aren't the big gun anymore, and their business strategy needs to change accordingly.

Heh.
Yeah, their hissy fit over the DC graphic novels on FIRE comes to mind.
Throwing their (welter) weight as if they were top dog and DC wasn't a part of TimeWarner.

Personally, I think they shouldn't have called it the Nook *Tablet* if they weren't ready to play by android tablet rules. The Nook Color was marketed as a Nook Reader-plus so buyers knew not to expect openness.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by J. Strnad

Oh, you're absolutely right about that. Amazon is very "hubrisy." But they are #1. You expect #1 to be that way.

Until the underdog MIGHTY DUCKS swoop in and... what? I forgot what I was going to say there.

Totally agree that B&N, perplexingly, seems to think they are #1. Very odd.

[robertc88]

Still on the last version with my NT regardless that I've had WiFi on more than I usually do.

[Lemurion]

I was thinking of replacing my NC with an NT, but the requirement for a signed bootloader made it a complete no-go for me.

[gtriever]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

Heh. ...Personally, I think they shouldn't have called it the Nook *Tablet* if they weren't ready to play by android tablet rules. The Nook Color was marketed as a Nook Reader-plus so buyers knew not to expect openness.

Exactly. I was ready to buy one of these turkeys until I did some research. "Tablet" is a joke.

[Vic333]

B&N must have some hothead in a top position. They just keep making reactionary moves that ostracize a large percentage of their customer base. Customer loyalty is a large factor when you depend on continued e-book purchase to make up for low hardware costs. Many of the moves (the DC Comics issue, now the NT lockdown) don't even really affect me personally, but they sure don't encourage me to patronize their business.

[MV64]

It's funny that BN once suggested they would open nooks up to developers...only to go the opposite direction and lock it all down.

[Apache]

I have my Nook Color Rooted, but 99% of the time I use it as an ereader.
Apache

[teh603]

Originally Posted by Vic333

B&N must have some hothead in a top position. They just keep making reactionary moves that ostracize a large percentage of their customer base. Customer loyalty is a large factor when you depend on continued e-book purchase to make up for low hardware costs. Many of the moves (the DC Comics issue, now the NT lockdown) don't even really affect me personally, but they sure don't encourage me to patronize their business.

I wouldn't say a hothead. Remember, this is the era when all businesses are starting to treat their customers like thieves. I'd say they're just going with the trend started by the RIAA and MPAA.

Originally Posted by luqmaninbmore

This is simply not true. The majority of android devices (including phones) DO allow outside apps.

I was really surprised when I found that out a few weeks ago; Google is very low-key on the process for installing unapproved apps.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by MV64

It's funny that BN once suggested they would open nooks up to developers...only to go the opposite direction and lock it all down.

Yeah. I was playing in the dev forums for awhile way back in the day and that got REAL ugly REAL slowly. B&N went from "Developers! We love them!" to basically pretending like the developer forum didn't even exist. Even the B&N people seemed frustrated at the company's stance.

Very odd.

[kennyc]

Very likely an edict came down from on-high to stop the rooting etc.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Very likely an edict came down from on-high to stop the rooting etc.

Which is why these companies -- from B&N to Rowling -- should CONSULT SOMEONE before they say stuff.

(I mean, I realize YOU know this. Ranting.)

Developers basically have to root their devices. That's part of development. You don't just code something in a sandbox, load it to the App Store and THEN do your testing. That's Not How It Works. So making an announcement that you want to curry favor with developers, and making a forum to do so, and THEN realizing that "oh, crap, they're rooting their devices!" is fail fail fail.

Similarly, when you go around saying that you're going to provide identical reading experiences to people, or that you're going to use a format that can be read on all devices, or some such nonsense.

PEOPLE! Talk to your engineers before you say this stuff. Not hard! You think we're just here for our sexy good looks? We're more than a pretty face.

[Phogg]

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

Talk to your engineers before you say this stuff. Not hard! You think we're just here for our sexy good looks? We're more than a pretty face.

You are there to kill things...