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Old 09-12-2011, 02:52 PM   #31
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Have you ever got onto anyone for devaluing the currency of words by use of the term piracy in the wrong context?
Piracy is a word used by many different people in many different ways with some consensus (usually polarised into two camps) as to what the user means even if they're all ignoring the real meaning of the word but "evil" is a pretty unambiguous word and shouldn't be devalued by trivialising it... even if it is claimed as "hyperbole"
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:00 PM   #32
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It's called overdone...
It's called arguing over trivia.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:21 PM   #33
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Gadaffi is evil, Pol Pot was evil etc... whatever else they are, evil is really overkill in this case... don't devalue the currency of words by overuse in the wrong context...
Agency publishers are heartless b@st@rds.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:23 PM   #34
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Piracy is a word used by many different people in many different ways with some consensus (usually polarised into two camps) as to what the user means even if they're all ignoring the real meaning of the word but "evil" is a pretty unambiguous word and shouldn't be devalued by trivialising it... even if it is claimed as "hyperbole"
Evil is a word used by many different people in many different ways with some consensus (usually polarized into two camps) as to what the user means even if they're all ignoring the real meaning of the word.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:29 PM   #35
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If you live in Canada, you are better off with a reader that does ePub via ADE then a Kindle given that there are a lot of eBooks not available via Amazon.
The opposite applies for us here in New Zealand. I thought agency pricing meant all retailers had to charge the same price.

But kobo in NZ is FAR more expensive than the Amazon kindle store for the same book, same publisher. NZ'ers buy from Amazon in US dollars, from kobo in NZ dollars, but even allowing for exchange rates the books via kobo are almost always 30-50% more expensive. And Amazon kindle has a far wider selection as well - including lots of NZ literature which is far cheaper than what NZ's largest retailer sells it for.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:56 PM   #36
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What is it with some of the people on here... we're talking about books... and predominantly fiction at that... make the slightest comment on a remark about the triviality of what's being discussed (and the terminology used) and you'd think I'd called for the Inquisition to burn you at the stake... still, it's a good way to get people to ignore threads and let you keep your overblown descriptions going...
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Some of this has to do with when the contracts were signed and renewed. In 2010, Amazon and Penguin could not arrive at acceptable terms and Penguin eBooks were not available for sale in the US via the Amazon store. This year the line in the sand is being drawn in Canada. From what I understand, Agency pricing has to be the same for all retailers/vendors in a given location. They do not necessarily sign those contracts at the same time.

I am including this again, in case folks have not seen it. It is the legal notice Kobo has been sending out on Agency pricing recently when they send discount codes.

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Legal Offer valid from [...]. This offer is not valid in conjunction with any other offer or promotion and cannot be used to adjust amount paid on previous purchases. Discount code is valid for one time $1 off any eBook purchase excluding those from the following publishers: In the UK - Zondervan, Random House, Hachette Book Group, HarperCollins, Penguin, Simon & Schuster, Wiley and all respective subsidiary imprints. In the US - Hachette Book Group USA, HarperCollins, Simon & Schuster, Penguin, Macmillan, Zondervan, Wiley, Random House and all respective subsidiary imprints. In CA - Zondervan, Simon & Schuster, HarperCollins, Hachette Book Group, Penguin, Wiley, and Macmillan. In AU/NZ - Zondervan, Wiley, Hachette Book Group, HarperCollins and all respective subsidiary imprints. Newspapers and magazines are excluded from this offer. Promotional code must be entered at time of purchase to qualify for this discount. Discounts cannot be applied nor the discount value refunded once a purchase is complete. We reserve the right to change or end this offer at any time without notice.
Also check to see if both sellers are including taxes/VAT. Whether or not a foreign company has to collect taxes for goods sold are a trade agreement/legal issue.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:46 PM   #38
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What is it with some of the people on here... we're talking about books... and predominantly fiction at that... make the slightest comment on a remark about the triviality of what's being discussed (and the terminology used) and you'd think I'd called for the Inquisition to burn you at the stake... still, it's a good way to get people to ignore threads and let you keep your overblown descriptions going...
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