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Old 08-16-2011, 09:29 AM   #31
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Here's an update from the NY Times. The author expresses the concerns of Google's partners but also gives a lot of specific information.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/...lines&emc=tha2
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:39 AM   #32
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The problem with selling it is that wouldn't get back anywhere near what they paid (as the main value is patents, and they paid a significant (60%+) premium over market price), and would have to book a loss on that. Take away the patents and the cash, and how much is the Motorola handset business worth?
If the main value is the patents, and they still have the patents after selling the manufacturing business, why would they have to book a loss?
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This infographic will tell you all you need to know about the Smartphone Landscape.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...ET_graphic.htm
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Neat graphic but the Nokia graphic is misleading. Their 22.1% share of smartphone operating systems? Try zero. They announced a switch to WP7 OS.

And however they define smartphone, it isn't quite the same thing as current Android, RIMM, or iOS devices. Nokia's 20.9% share of "smartphones" is therefore equally bogus.
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Neat graphic but the Nokia graphic is misleading. Their 22.1% share of smartphone operating systems?

It's current.
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Neat graphic but the Nokia graphic is misleading. Their 22.1% share of smartphone operating systems? Try zero. They announced a switch to WP7 OS.

And however they define smartphone, it isn't quite the same thing as current Android, RIMM, or iOS devices. Nokia's 20.9% share of "smartphones" is therefore equally bogus.
Nokia sold 16.7 million smartphones last quarter, and 24 million the quarter before-those are Symbian OS. They had around 24% of the smartphone market two quarters ago, and it fell to around 15% last quarter?

I believe that Gartner may have used a snapshot of the 2nd or 3rd calendar quarter for those numbers, since they do not correspond with either Nokia's nor Apple's quarterly numbers so far this year, but seem to be in between them.

Edit: Horace Dedieu's chart: http://www.asymco.com/2011/08/08/the...-phone-brands/
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