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Old 07-08-2011, 09:30 AM   #31
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Fair enough, but MobileRead has to cover its ass, and they err on the side of caution. A friendly moderator politely explained why. It wasn't personal.
I know. I never blamed the moderator. I just wanted to let others know how it feels when at first you are denied a sale of a book and then slapped when you pirate it.
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Old 07-08-2011, 10:28 AM   #32
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:44 PM   #33
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Good morning/evening people,

I have seen other threads in this forum where people discuss djvu files.
As I never heard of books being published in djvu format I thought that all these djvu files that people are talking about were scanned books. As no one cited any titles, they could all be books current on print.

Amazon seems to have a strange policy.
Many of the books that I would like to buy are not available for shipping to Romania. Even Kindle editions, which requires no "shipping".
Even the free public domain books in Kindle edition that are free to download in UK and US are sold for 0.99 to Romania residents.

@ kennyc:
Thanks for the sugestion on the djvu reader. I used WinDjvuReader to open the file. But what I would like is to convert it so that I can read on the Kindle and be able to increase the font size so that I can read without glasses.

I understand the book is very basic. But it's exactly what I need. It's not like I'm majoring in particle physics. I'm just doing a course on marketing and PR and was requested to write a paper on a subject that fascinates me. So it doesn't have to be highly technical. And this book is the only one that I could find on popular quantum physics (or Quantum Mechanics for Dummies as Diap put it :-)
If you cannot find the book then you should tell your professor. Shame on professors for requiring books that cannot be purchased or located for use.

Have you looked in the college library? I think a book that old should be in a decent college library. Students cannot afford to be choosy, they need to get their information in whatever format they can find it, and sometimes that means reading a borrowed library book.

As far as availability of certain books in foreign lands, Amazon perhaps has their own policies. I suspect the reason has more to do with USA and foreign laws and with the publisher's policies than it does with Amazon's policies. Don't forget that Romania was a communist country with a dictator not that many years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if the USA highly restricts what can and cannot be traded there. True many years have passed since then, but USA policies often take decades to reflect those changes. For example, the Cuba missile crisis occurred 50 years ago and yet we (in the USA) still have a lot of trade restriction with Cuba.

Bottomline is that the book is most likely available in Romania in some legal format. You just need to get off you backside and go find it. A huge part of being a student is to learn how to find and use the information you need.

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Old 07-08-2011, 01:40 PM   #34
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If you cannot find the book then you should tell your professor. Shame on professors for requiring books that cannot be purchased or located for use..
She already said she chose the topic/book, not her professor.

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Have you looked in the college library? I think a book that old should be in a decent college library. Students cannot afford to be choosy, they need to get their information in whatever format they can find it, and sometimes that means reading a borrowed library book..
...and you think she hasn't tried? She did get a scanned copy.

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As far as availability of certain books in foreign lands, Amazon perhaps has their own policies. I suspect the reason has more to do with USA and foreign laws and with the publisher's policies than it does with Amazon's policies. Don't forget that Romania was a communist country with a dictator not that many years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if the USA highly restricts what can and cannot be traded there. True many years have passed since then, but USA policies often take decades to reflect those changes. For example, the Cuba missile crisis occurred 50 years ago and yet we (in the USA) still have a lot of trade restriction with Cuba..
How did we get from changing the format of an ebook to the Cuban missile crisis?

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Bottomline is that the book is most likely available in Romania in some legal format. You just need to get off you backside and go find it. A huge part of being a student is to learn how to find and use the information you need.
I don't think the OP was looking for another Dad to pontificate at her!

So if I can sum up your reply... 'yell at your professor, don't be lazy, learn some history, and get your a$$ in gear'. I'm sure she found that helpful!

Hey moderators, anyway we can end this thread?
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:59 PM   #35
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Old 07-08-2011, 02:40 PM   #36
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Bottomline is that the book is most likely available in Romania in some legal format. You just need to get off you backside and go find it. A huge part of being a student is to learn how to find and use the information you need.
Take it from someone who went to university in eastern Europe: it very well might not be available legally at all in Romania, and if it is legally available, getting it might involve a 10 hour bus ride that would end up costing a quarter of an average month's wages. I've been assigned readings that were not available legally, and some of the text books that we used were out of print and there would be only one copy available in a 50 km radius that the 30 of us in my program would have to somehow share. I'm very lucky that Amazon shipped to the country that I lived in, but I would have to wait quite a while to get my books, which was a big pain. Not all of the students that I studied with had the luxury of being able to order books online, as they had no money and no credit cards, so I often shared my books with my classmates. I've studied in North America at a university and I've studied in Europe and the difference between the resources available here and there is unbelievable.
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:11 PM   #37
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Nice job trying to play piracy police Tom. She did not say the title in the original post, merely that it was a scanned book not available in her country. You inferred a lot in your judgement, just as I have inferred that you are a total tool.

This forum has gone completely down the drain. It started off as a place that simply helped people get reading material onto their readers. Now it appears to function as some lame online reading club for those with a ninth grade reading level with a forum moderated by the type of people who would help an Alabama school board burn some offending books.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:24 PM   #38
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So if I can sum up your reply... 'yell at your professor, don't be lazy, learn some history, and get your a$$ in gear'. I'm sure she found that helpful!
Talk about logic-challenged. I'm glad I didn't have that many students like you when I taught college. The few I did wound up with a lot of red ink on their papers!
 
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...when I taught college.
Glad to hear it's past tense! Have a good retirement...
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Nice job trying to play piracy police Tom. She did not say the title in the original post, merely that it was a scanned book not available in her country. You inferred a lot in your judgement, just as I have inferred that you are a total tool.

This forum has gone completely down the drain. It started off as a place that simply helped people get reading material onto their readers. Now it appears to function as some lame online reading club for those with a ninth grade reading level with a forum moderated by the type of people who would help an Alabama school board burn some offending books.
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