Touch Easier Shelving

[Kolenka]

Originally Posted by 6charlong

The Kindle 3 stocks its shelves (or collections) the same way nook does plus doing it in the reverse direction, that is, you can open the properties of an individual book and choose <Add to Collection> whereupon it offers you a list of all your collections. You check off all you want it in. Most people have a lot more books than collections so the process is faster.

That's what I'm missing from my Sony as well, being able to add to collections from the book, rather than books to the collection. Makes it easier when you are adding 1-2 at a time.

[Mellobob]

Originally Posted by Kolenka

That's what I'm missing from my Sony as well, being able to add to collections from the book, rather than books to the collection. Makes it easier when you are adding 1-2 at a time.

I'm the thread starter here ... I was hoping for an easy solution

But I have a Kindle 3 as well as a new nook and I can tell you that the collections are much easier to manage on the kindle. Mainly due to the sort-by-date on the kindle ... all new books appear in a group and they it's easy to select them one-by-one and put them in a collection, or select a collection and page to the "new" stuff and add it.

One question still open is: Is there an advantage to be had if I root my nook in this dept?

[Kolenka]

Not yet. The root is still somewhat new, and they are focused on opening it up as an eInk Android Tablet right now, rather than polishing the eReader experience.

[SCION]

Originally Posted by Kolenka

... they are focused on opening it up as an eInk Android Tablet right now, rather than polishing the eReader experience.

Yes, .

[wpeace]

Originally Posted by Nina182B

I have 500+ books and it's too time consuming to setup my books into shelves using the nook. For now, I'm going to use the SD card memory file's My Files/Books folder. In the Books folder, I created folders of what I want my "shelves" to be, then drag and dropped the ePub files in these folders. In the Library, I select "My Files", then "Memory Card", and I can see the folders that I created and drill down into them. The only drawback is that, the ePubs don't show the book cover images

I was really debating whether or not to return the Nook Simple Touch, because I can't stand not being able to have some sort of book folder structure, but now that I know this works, I'm keeping it!! I can live with not seeing the book cover images... but will play around with it... maybe will discover something new.

You know, I moved from my Astak EzReader to the Nook and the one thing I loved about it was the File Management. Nothing sophisticated, but it allowed me to save books in Directories on the device. So, I had a directory for each category of book and subdirectories by author. The device displayed that structure. It was pretty easy for me to navigate.

Adding new books just meant putting them in the right directory and Calibre could even manage that.

I really miss that feature....

[Mellobob]

Originally Posted by wpeace

You know, I moved from my Astak EzReader to the Nook and the one thing I loved about it was the File Management. Nothing sophisticated, but it allowed me to save books in Directories on the device. So, I had a directory for each category of book and subdirectories by author. The device displayed that structure. It was pretty easy for me to navigate.

Adding new books just meant putting them in the right directory and Calibre could even manage that.

I really miss that feature....

The nice thing about Shelves (and collections on the kindle) is that you can have the same book in multiple categories. You could most likely do this using directories and links, but not really the best

[eGeezer]

Originally Posted by wpeace

You know, I moved from my Astak EzReader to the Nook and the one thing I loved about it was the File Management. Nothing sophisticated, but it allowed me to save books in Directories on the device. So, I had a directory for each category of book and subdirectories by author. The device displayed that structure. It was pretty easy for me to navigate.

Adding new books just meant putting them in the right directory and Calibre could even manage that.

I really miss that feature....

Uh...

I just moved to the STR (yesterday), and reading thru this thread, I kept thinking "Just use the File system" (which one person mentioned, and I presume using Calibre amounts to the same).

So, in case you just haven't seen it, you are NOT missing the feature. "My Files" is exactly the same as the Astak -- just graphically prettier. Just drop those little folders all over your SD card (or the miniscule Nook memory), and there you go.

[Kolenka]

Originally Posted by eGeezer

Uh...

I just moved to the STR (yesterday), and reading thru this thread, I kept thinking "Just use the File system" (which one person mentioned, and I presume using Calibre amounts to the same).

So, in case you just haven't seen it, you are NOT missing the feature. "My Files" is exactly the same as the Astak -- just graphically prettier. Just drop those little folders all over your SD card (or the miniscule Nook memory), and there you go.

From my experience with the Sony, Calibre could auto-build collections for you using the tags. And so a book would wind up in multiple collections which is useful.

If I'm in the mood for an "Adventure" story, why should it also ignore my SciFi/Fantasy books as well? Plenty of those types of books there too. Being able to have a book in multiple collections (which the nook seems to have issues with in the filesystem as far as I can tell) is a bonus for those of us who mentally browse by genre rather than author. For the latter (or Aztak users), yeah you are right, if you can live without cover art.

[eGeezer]

Oh, yeah. The cover art thing.

Wasn't a consideration in the Astak -- just lists. So, yeah, with a reader capable of displaying cover art, its a plus to actually be able to see it. I'll have to check out Calibre a little more.

[Kymmmm]

I just bought the ST and still can't get used to the filing difference. I love the Nook Color system but the ST is just so clumsy. On the color I had a folder for every author in alphabetical order, Easy! On the ST, it won't display folders so everything is displayed, meaning page after page of listings you can't browse through quickly. You have to know what you are looking for so no browsing at all. I wish they would update this to something like the Color.

Kym

[eGeezer]

Originally Posted by Kymmmm

... On the ST, it won't display folders so everything is displayed, meaning page after page of listings you can't browse through quickly.
Kym

The following is NOT intended as a solution, or even an excuse for B&N's failure to at least duplicate the system on the NC.

However, there is a crippled "folders view" accessible in the Library. However, as the "My Files" name implies, it is only good for side-loaded stuff. Still doesn't help with any books purchased from BN.

Of course, there are "Shelves" for which you have to tediously select from that endless list and place your categorized books onto. But that doesn't make the list any shorter -- just shows check marks for the books already on the shelf you have open.

I've had my STR for a couple days, and I gotta say it was the right choice (for me). But that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement.

[thrawn_aj]

Originally Posted by Kolenka

Although it'd be nice if it stored metadata on books that live on the SD card, on the SD card so it didn't undo all my shelving when I remove it.

Just like the Classic (I had some interesting discussions with someone who had rooted it back then), it stores all such "sensitive data" (national security - best not to ask) on a protected partition in the system memory card (or chip as the case may be). The partition only shows up if you root (I'm talking about the classic now). Even then, the data are all stored in unintelligible files. The person I discussed this with had actually gotten to the point of figuring out which files had the bookmarks and the annotations but it wasn't very useful since the annotations were in some proprietary format that would need some work to decipher, let alone write an app to export it to a useable format. Also, I suspect it was made volatile on purpose - to limit its usefulness for a future "social network" based sharing.

Oh well ... some things just ain't meant to be

[linux_author]

Originally Posted by Nina182B

I have 500+ books and it's too time consuming to setup my books into shelves using the nook. For now, I'm going to use the SD card memory file's My Files/Books folder. In the Books folder, I created folders of what I want my "shelves" to be, then drag and dropped the ePub files in these folders. In the Library, I select "My Files", then "Memory Card", and I can see the folders that I created and drill down into them. The only drawback is that, the ePubs don't show the book cover images

this is a perceptive approach, and quite good! much, much easier than the insipid 'Shelves,' which many have pointed out, seems to 'fall down' and lose all its books from time to time (has happened twice to me in the past month)

AFA book covers: i don't really care... after all, when i go to the local library, all i peruse are the spines anyway...

:-)

[Kymmmm]

I only just worked that out today. I couldn't get or find the right combination of settings before. I have lots of folders because that is how I have my Nook color set up. I copied it all to another SD card when I got the ST thinking it would be the same but of course it wasn't. Now that I can access my library as folders again, life is much easier though scanning through all the folders is a pain. I was thinking of putting a another set of folders together and moving all the 'A' authors into a folder and so forth so it doesn't take as long to find the author I want.

Kym

[Dopedangel]

Originally Posted by Kymmmm

I only just worked that out today. I couldn't get or find the right combination of settings before. I have lots of folders because that is how I have my Nook color set up. I copied it all to another SD card when I got the ST thinking it would be the same but of course it wasn't. Now that I can access my library as folders again, life is much easier though scanning through all the folders is a pain. I was thinking of putting a another set of folders together and moving all the 'A' authors into a folder and so forth so it doesn't take as long to find the author I want.

Kym

I had a hanlin v3 before I got touch so am used to using folders if you use calibre you can use this template

{tags:|[|]/}/{authors[0]}/{authors}/{series}/{series_index:|0>5.2f| - }{title}

I use the tags column in calibre to set genre so my folders would be like
\Fantasy.Urban\J\Jim Butcher\Dresden\01 - Storm Front.epub
very easy to navigate using folders.