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Besides, the librarian isn’t complaining about paying more than $10k, she’s complaining that OD is requesting a more than 690% admin fee increase within the next 3 years. Why should I be concerned about OD? Because they are finally getting some competition? Last time I checked their budget wasn't getting cut and they were doing fine. IIRC it is the public library system that's under fire, you know the 26% budget cut. |
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I expect that more users doesn't increase OD's costs significantly, or they would have contracts with per-user licensing instead of a flat fee.
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As for publishers, I suppose I can imagine that a publisher might say that access to its ebooks must come through some specific content administrator, but at that point, I can't imagine a library buying that content. One of the interesting things about our move from the analog world to the digital world is that one-time lump sum payments are being changed into payment streams. In the short run, payment streams appear to me to be cheaper. But in the long run - which is what books are all about - payment streams are very costly so long as the recipient of the payment stream can lock the consumer into its ecosystem. That's what the phone companies have managed to do to us. Now comes Overdrive, with the same objective. If libraries don't fight this tooth & nail, they will not be able to afford to lend ebooks. |
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It would be great if all the lawyers commenting would say whether or not they are commenting in a general way, of if they know the fine details. I know it would help me to understand the situation better.
At any rate, it can be fun to speculate. To me this case has more to do with the ownership of a product. I always (and I have no clue as to why) thought that they (the libraries) bought the books with the stipulation that they lend out only one licensed copy at a time. So the question that pops into my mind is, Is OverDrive actually buying the ebooks and simply managing the distribution for the libraries? Simple. Who has the receipts. But maybe I'm the one being simple. The publishers want to restrict the number of times that a library can lend out an ebook. What does that do to OverDrive? Managing millions (tens of millions?) of decreasing ebook life spans for hundreds of thousands libraries could make it prohibitively expensive for all concerned. Did the libraries pay $X for each ebook. That part should be simple (even if there are a lot of restrictions as to how they can use the ebooks). Again, who has the receipts? Quote:
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Just how big was the ebook/library traffic in 2006? In Kansas no less! I have a population listing of 2,764,000 for the whole state of Kansas in 2006 Any guesses as to what percentage of the population was reading ebooks back then? Lets take a totally preposterous guess- 1/2 of 1% in 2006. 2006 Population of the state of Kansas = 2,764,000 One half of one percent of the population reading ebooks = 13,820 A 10% increase in usage = 1,382 more people ereading. NO, NO, NO! That's way to small! lets try 1% of the Kansas population in 2006. 2006 Population of the state of Kansas = 2,764,000 One percent of the population reading ebooks = 27,640 A 10% increase in usage = 2,764 more people ereading. And remember - I'm making the assumption that all those people are getting their ebooks from the library! Well it doesn’t matter if the 10% increase was 1,382 or 2,764 more people ereading. That's a lot of people. For Kansas. ![]() Now how much of an increase was OverDrive looking for? Oh yeah; "OD is requesting a more than 690% admin fee increase within the next 3 years." I wonder if I can ask my boss for a 90% pay raise, never mind a 690% increase. ![]() Last edited by SameOldStory; 07-06-2011 at 10:25 PM. |
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One other consideration.
If that increase was for an entire state who's population is probably smaller than the membership of the New York City Library system ... |
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Basically, it sounds like the cost of everything except content. Bandwidth, database management, customer service, legal fees and so forth. $75k to manage and distribute library ebooks for the entire state of Kansas really is not that big a cost. It's only big compared to the ridiculously sweet deal Kansas had for the past 5 years. Last edited by Kali Yuga; 07-06-2011 at 11:01 PM. |
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It's impossible to tell what the old contract stipulated without seeing it. Your math is completely off, by the way. The claim isn't that usage increased 10% since 2006. When you increase usage by 10 times, that's a 1000% increase. So if there were 27,000 people checking out ebooks from Kansas libraries in 2006, there are currently 270,000 people checking out ebooks. Seriously, the Overdrive admin costs are a pittance. The only reason why the librarians are freaking out over the cost component is, again, because they had a flat fee that hasn't changed since 2006. I really cannot view their complaints over the cost component as having much merit. |
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Thanks Kali, math for a dyslexic is torture. It can't be improved with practice, so I pretty much avoid it. Unlike spell check there is no good solution.
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Kansas State Library's Overdrive collection only has 2452 titles. Currently 700 of them are available. I believe it is safe to say they had considerably less than 270,000 ebooks borrowed last year.
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