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There is no excuse for misusing subjective "who" and objective"whom." the weird thing is that people want you to correct them in this specific example. They will say something, correct themselves, then look at me in confusion. I consider this a teachable moment.
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![]() PS. This is slightly OT, but it is a recurrent authorial booboo - is anyone else fed up with the way half the characters in Kerry Greenwood's Phryne Fisher books are "several axe handles" across the shoulders? Has she ever seen an axe? Sorry, I was reading one of them and just needed to get that off my chest. Last edited by wayrad; 03-24-2011 at 03:12 PM. |
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I'd rather see "who" used in all contexts than the atrocities turned out by people who think "whom" is a more correct form of "who" and use it in all contexts instead.
I think those are the same people who think "myself" is a more formal version of "I", so they say insanely idiotic things like "Myself and Fred went to the store." Ever see a grown Curmudgeon whimper? You're about to. Also, what's with people using "and" when they mean "an"? I only started seeing that one a couple of years ago, and it makes me want to hurt people. Another one from the advertising industry: losing the "-ed" on words like "boxed set" (no, it's not a "box set"; that's a set of boxes). My grocery store has "can meat" on one of its signs and I want to scream every time I see it. As I've mentioned here I play World of Warcraft, and one of these days I'm going to send their home office a very strongly worded letter about the fact that you bring something when you come, and you take something when you go. Quest text is constantly saying "bring this box to Foozle" when it means to take it there instead. You don't "hone in on" things -- why would you polish them? You home in on things, like a homing pigeon (just found that error in a pbook today). |
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According to Garner's Modern American Usage, which is considered a leading, if not the leading, book on American language usage today, drug (for dragged) is a dialectal form common in the southern United States. The dictionaries consider it nonstandard and the OED calls it obsolete except in dialect. The American Regional English Dictionary (1991) lists the form dragged as "usual" and drug as "also frequent."
Drug (for dragged) has been found to be frequently used in Nebraska, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Illinois, Kansas, and Tennesee; "very common" in East Alabama; and "common" in Kentucky, Louisiana, New Jersey, and in the Canadian provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland. One commentator, in 1953, summed up the difference as "Dragged . . . predominates among cultured informants everywhere. . . .[In the noncultured] types it is more or less narrowly limited by the competing form drug." Pick your poison (cultural level) and shoot! |
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Very interesting thread. You've touched on all the things I find annoying as a reader. Simply passing an English course doesn't qualify you as a writer, which many people seem to think these days.
Another pet peeve of mine is mixing up led and lead. And has anyone mentioned the misuse of hang, hanged, and hung? Joyce |
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The tendency to write lead (instead of led) for the past tense/past particple of the verb form is likely a result of analogizing it to the verb read. This is an error in American English. Led is the correct usage in American English when referring to the past tense of the verb lead. According to Garner's Modern American English, "coats and pictures are hung, and sometimes so are juries. But criminals found guilty of capital offenses are hanged. . . .[But if] a person is suspended for amusement or through malice, and death is likely or intended, then hung is the proper word. . . ." |
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Here we are, this (and the next few posts) were where it happened:
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More a case of using the dictionary wrongly, I suspect. You wouldn't find "led" (in its "lead" sense) as a separate entry in most dictionaries - it would be a part of the entry for "lead".
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