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Old 05-24-2011, 07:46 AM   #31
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Depends on platform, setup and what you run... I have on three different computers and also installed on at least half a dozen others over the last couple of years and not had a single crash... although I'd admit to not using it for html files, badly formatted or otherwise, I'm lazy and use Dreamweaver et al...


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The OpenOffice open source team got fed up with Oracle's heavy handed management, and forked off a totally free version so they could have more control of features and updates.

So Libre-Office has everything OpenOffice did plus a few minor updates.

Don't expect too much though; because, from what I have found, it still has many of the same issues that plagued OpenOffice (i.e. still crashes randomly too often, and some simple actions like loading or saving a badly formatted file in html format will crash it every time)

Some say it's faster, but on my Ubuntu box I didn't notice any change (if anything Libre-Office loads a second or two SLOWER).

Also, for a team that wasn't happy with Oracle and wanted to 'clean up the act', I have to say I am NOT IMPRESSED SO FAR, because when I installed LibreOffice from the official PPA it promptly DELETED my OpenOffice install without permission (they can run side by side), then also proceeded to SCREW-UP my common system files so bad that my Firefox couldn't spell check anymore until I went in and manually reinstalled aspell.

'At-A-Boy' "Libre-Office" team, way to go, if this represents your best effort then PLEASE give the project BACK TO ORACLE!
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Old 05-24-2011, 09:21 PM   #32
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Depends on platform, setup and what you run... I have on three different computers and also installed on at least half a dozen others over the last couple of years and not had a single crash... although I'd admit to not using it for html files, badly formatted or otherwise, I'm lazy and use Dreamweaver et al...
OpenOffice 2 under Windows worked great for me. Not totally crash free, but neither was MS Word, and once I figured out what worked, and what did not, I found OpenOffice to be a good performer.

One would think that since the core support for OpenOffice comes from the Nix Geek community, that it would run better under Ubuntu, but that has NOT been my experience. OO 3 under Ubuntu seems to crash much more frequently than I remember OO 2 crashing under Windows.

Sure, comparing version 2 to version 3 is a little apples-to-oranges, but I would expect OO3 to be more stable, not less so.

And as I said before, so far at least, I haven't found LibreOffice to be much better (things that would crash OO3 also seem to crash LO3), but one of the reasons I find listed for the OpenOffice/LibreOffice split was to increase the pace of bug fix and feature releases, so hope springs eternal . . .

Sorry to drift a little off topic.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:54 PM   #33
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I'll drift us further by saying that all I need is to open the occasional Word/Excel file on my netbook, where I cannot install Office as I don't have an external disc drive. Open Office has been okay so far.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:21 AM   #34
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I'll drift us further by saying that all I need is to open the occasional Word/Excel file on my netbook, where I cannot install Office as I don't have an external disc drive. Open Office has been okay so far.
I use OpenOffice (now LibreOffice) more than 90% of the time, so like that old Listerine commercial "I hate it," (the occasional minor bugs), "but I use it," on a daily basis.

I have a vintage copy of Office 2000 that came with one of my older laptops, and unlike you, I do have an external USB DVD drive, so installing Office is no problem . . . Or at least it wouldn't be a problem, were it not for a pile of artificial 'incompatibilities' that Microsoft has intentionally created, between this older version and both Win7 and documents created by more modern versions of MS Office.

I have found lots of cases where the Microsoft document compatibility in OpenOffice is actually better than my vintage MS Office2000.

Microsoft thinks they are being Sooooo clever, doing things to intentionally screw up backward compatibility, and then using this to try to blackmail consumers to upgrade. Pay us 300 dollars for an upgrade, or we'll shoot this dog! (or at least let it chew your documents to bits!), but like a lot of other users, I decide not to put up with this garbage, so all they succeeding in doing was driving me into the OpenOffice/LibreOffice camp.

Unfortunately (for Microsoft), when folks try the free open source version of OpenOffice or LibreOffice, most will find that it is not just a good 'last ditch alternative' to Office, but actually works quite well and will do pretty much everything they need.

I still like the grammar checker in MS Word a little better than anything I have found as a plugin for OpenOffice. I also like the fact that on a modern fast CPU Word 2000 will open in under a second, which is great, but with Microsoft playing the kinds of stupid games I have run into, I find myself booting up MS Word less and less often.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:50 PM   #35
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Hello all!
I see the problem is solved, I just wanted to say a thank you for all of you, because I found some very useful information here! As I'm a university student, I have lotsa pdfs, docs, so I think Open/LibreOffice will help me a lot - I'm downloading it right now. So yeah, I'm just really happy that I found this topic
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:03 PM   #36
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Hello all!
I see the problem is solved, I just wanted to say a thank you for all of you, because I found some very useful information here! As I'm a university student, I have lotsa pdfs, docs, so I think Open/LibreOffice will help me a lot - I'm downloading it right now. So yeah, I'm just really happy that I found this topic
Glad you found some useful information.

You should be aware that ,though PDF export is a built in function, PDF import currently requires a special plugin in OpenOffice. Also, don't expect to be able to seamlessly import very complex commercial level PDF's (like some of your academic reference books) for editing, as the PDF import plugin is still in it's first release and currently supports only fairly simple PDF formatting.

PDF export, on the other hand, in both OpenOffice and LibreOffice, is very sophisticated, and can handle very complex documents, including full support for hyper-links, indexes, and full TOC support. So if you are looking for a very professional tool to author academic papers that you wish to submit for review or publish in PDF format, you can't go wrong with LibreOffice.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:16 AM   #37
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@Phogg - I considered sharing the little cookbook here, but I think over time some of the recipe attributions have been lost. Also, I own a Thermomix, so many of my recipes are adapted for that machine. I could put together a shorter, cleaned-up version if people would be interested. ??
I would be interested in your cookbook Just got my 350 and am loving it so far.

Also thanks for all the useful info everyone, on all the formatting tips etc. Very useful!

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