McDonald’s oatmeal contains more sugar than a Snickers bar

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by Mortis

I'm not on anything, if you want to read more about it, take a look here or you could do like so many other people and not look for the truth but believe what anyone tells you. Just because your hair stylist's brothers sister in laws father believes something, doesn't make it true, it makes them urban legends until proven.

Again I find it unbelievable that people will believe just anything they are told,

what's with the snarky hair dye response? you can't simply leave burger out, it WILL rot.

Originally Posted by obs20

It's similar to beef jerky. Beef and salt when dried out correctly will last.

and I've made copious quantities of venison jerky. this isn't a matter of just leaving out a hamburger patty on the counter and miraculously expecting preserved meat the next morning

Originally Posted by Mortis

Exactly, I can't be the only one thats had dried beef or salted fish.

Jerky is a little different in that they use smoke and some heat to speed up the dehydration, but dehydration is what preserves the beef in both cases.

I've salted, smoked, dried, canned and frozen foods my entire life. there is a huge difference following the preserving process as opposed to leaving a raw burger sitting out

[Mortis]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

what's with the snarky hair dye response? you can't simply leave burger out, it WILL rot.

I supplied a link to the page I was talking about, if you don't want to read it, then don't. As for the snarky hair stylist remark it was my way of saying don't believe something just because someone else tells you, I actually read a little before I commented about the non-rotting hamburger.

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by Mortis

I supplied a link to the page I was talking about, if you don't want to read it, then don't. As for the snarky hair stylist remark it was my way of saying don't believe something just because someone else tells you, I actually read a little before I commented about the non-rotting hamburger.

you're running this into the ground. I responded about raw hamburger left out before you provided any links. I've been putting food up in various methods for years. I don't need any lessons.

'nuff said

[obs20]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

what's with the snarky hair dye response? you can't simply leave burger out, it WILL rot.



and I've made copious quantities of venison jerky. this isn't a matter of just leaving out a hamburger patty on the counter and miraculously expecting preserved meat the next morning



I've salted, smoked, dried, canned and frozen foods my entire life. there is a huge difference following the preserving process as opposed to leaving a raw burger sitting out

It depends on climate conditions. It's not going to happen if you live in a temperate rain forest. However if you had a dry spell with the requisite low humidity it just might. The thinness of the meat does help.

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by obs20

It depends on climate conditions. It's not going to happen if you live in a temperate rain forest. However if you had a dry spell with the requisite low humidity it just might.

yeah, maybe. accidentally. Colorado had almost the perfect temperature and humidity for curing meat. we would always hang our venison in the garage for a week or two prior to butchering it depending on the temps. there is no way in hell I'll do that here, it goes to the butcher and hangs in the cold locker. I got really sick on some venison I had made in Germany. it was the first time I had encountered drying meat and reasonably high humidity. after that experience I am EXTREMELY careful!

[obs20]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

yeah, maybe. accidentally. Colorado had almost the perfect temperature and humidity for curing meat. we would always hang our venison in the garage for a week or two prior to butchering it depending on the temps. there is no way in hell I'll do that here, it goes to the butcher and hangs in the cold locker. I got really sick on some venison I had made in Germany. it was the first time I had encountered drying meat and reasonably high humidity. after that experience I am EXTREMELY careful!

I myself would prefer to play it safe and use cooked meat and a proper dehumidifier.

[Mortis]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

you're running this into the ground. I responded about raw hamburger left out before you provided any links. I've been putting food up in various methods for years. I don't need any lessons.

'nuff said

I wasn't talking about raw beef, McDonalds hamburgers are sold with cooked beef.


I apologize if I didn't make that clear. I assumed that everyone would have understood we were talking about cooked beef.

[kindlekitten]

no, I had no clue that McDonalds burgers were made with cooked beef. my one experience in the fast food industry was a short stint at Wendy's and those started out as raw burgers

[Mortis]

All I was trying to say was that McDonalds food is no better or worse than anyone else's and that they take a lot of heat for being huge. My comment about the COOKED hamburger not rotting was just an example of how everyone loves to hate McDonalds.

I give up, McDonalds is the evil empire and we should all write to our respective governments to have the top people at McDonalds executed and their outlets torched.

[TGS]

Originally Posted by Mortis

I give up, McDonalds is the evil empire and we should all write to our respective governments to have the top people at McDonalds executed and their outlets torched.

At last a sensible, well-balanced assessment

[Mortis]

Originally Posted by TGS

At last a sensible, well-balanced assessment

Can't argue with your reasoning

[The Terminator]

Originally Posted by Mortis

All I was trying to say was that McDonalds food is no better or worse than anyone else's and that they take a lot of heat for being huge. My comment about the COOKED hamburger not rotting was just an example of how everyone loves to hate McDonalds.

I give up, McDonalds is the evil empire and we should all write to our respective governments to have the top people at McDonalds executed and their outlets torched.

I don't love to hate McDonald's I love to see people who love to hate to love McDonald's love the hate that they can give to McDonald's Which they love to hate

[natasha_fawn]

I hate McDonald's. I hate them because I can't eat their tasty fries anymore and they smell so delicious.

I am still peeved that they used to lie about the beef flavoring they cook the fries with, but I don't think they could get away with that these days.

[Mortis]

Originally Posted by THE TERMINATOR

I don't love to hate McDonald's I love to see people who love to hate to love McDonald's love the hate that they can give to McDonald's Which they love to hate

I'll have to get back to you on that, I'm not all that bright so I'll have to read that a few times

Originally Posted by natasha_fawn

I hate McDonald's. I hate them because I can't eat their tasty fries anymore and they smell so delicious.

I am still peeved that they used to lie about the beef flavoring they cook the fries with, but I don't think they could get away with that these days.

I never heard they used to flavor their fries, I agree, I doubt they can get away with it now. McDonalds is highly scrutinized, about as bad as Clinton was

[natasha_fawn]

Originally Posted by Mortis

I never heard they used to flavor their fries, I agree, I doubt they can get away with it now. McDonalds is highly scrutinized, about as bad as Clinton was

They do still use beef flavoring in their fries, but they only made it clear after they were sued over it. The problem being that for years they told people who asked that the fries were vegetarian (and Hindu) friendly when they weren't.