Amazon reveals new Kindle app for iPad and other tablets - Page 3

astra · 03-23-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by petermillard

These are third-party applications, like those available for iPhone. Apple's own reading application (iBooks) has it's own DRM, but Amazon has announced the Kindle application for iPad - like Kindle App for iPhone and iTouch - which allows you to read and buy books from the Kindle store. Barnes & Noble have also announced an iPad application for books in their format and DRM.

Provided Apple approves these Apps, the iPad will be well on the way towards becoming the most flexible reading platform available when it ships in the U.S. in a couple of weeks.

HTH Pete.

Can you read other DRMinfected ebooks on iPhone and iTouch? Such as epub or mobi?

pilotbob · 03-23-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

Can you read other DRMinfected ebooks on iPhone and iTouch? Such as epub or mobi?

Only if "There's an app for that". I know for the iPod Touch there is the txtr Reader app which does support Adobe DRM. I'm not sure if there are any Mobipocket reader apps though.

BOb

kennyc · 03-23-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by petermillard

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Provided Apple approves these Apps, the iPad will be well on the way towards becoming the most flexible reading platform available when it ships in the U.S. in a couple of weeks.

HTH Pete.

Uh, no. And lots of maybe's and if's in there.

The most flexible reading platform available would be my desktop (or netbook) windows PC.

CCDMan · 03-23-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

There already is a Kindle app in the app store that Apple approved. But, you never knew what maniacal Steve Jobs will do.
BOb

True, but Apple did not have a bookstore or sell books when that was approved so had no reason to deny it. It still will not (maybe?) for the iPod and iPhone but WILL have a competing bookstore for the iPad. That is clearly the same or similar to the "duplicate functionality" that has caused them to deny other apps.

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Originally Posted by petermillard

Woah dude, is your cup ever half empty or what??.....
Seriously, books aren't music; I don't think Apple really wants to be in the eBook business at all .....

So why, exactly, are they going to the trouble of doing a bookstore then?

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doesn't duplicate existing functionality because it is the ONLY way to legitimately read Kindle books on the iPad...

Huh? You must be using some definition of duplicate functionality I have not heard of! iBook reads and sells books, Kindle app reads and sells books, How is that not duplicate?

Also think about this: It is the opinion of most experts that the Apple books will (because of their deal with publishers) be more expensive than Kindle books (although some Kindle books are getting more spendy for the same reason). If you owned a bookstore, would you let your cheaper competitor open another store inside yours? Because that is what Apple would be doing.

We shall see and I hope I am wrong.

Other web commentary on the subject:

Comment #1

Comment #2

The point on the Justice dept. in the second article is well taken and may help us out.

johndoesecond · 03-23-2010, 10:47 AM

In the face of all the recent “ceci tuera cela” arguments (Kindle killing, iPad failing kind of stuff), this seems to me the most reasonable and predictable accommodation, both companies falling back to what they are better in: Amazon selling books (no matter on whose device), Apple selling hardware (no matter whose book).

Isn't it?

Tamara · 03-23-2010, 11:33 AM

In the recent iPad commercial, some eagle eyed folks spotted some book prices.

Ted Kennedy's True Compass - $14.99 (iBooks) vs $19.25 (Kindle)
Three Cups of Tea - $7.99 (iBooks) vs $7.50(Kindle)

DawnFalcon · 03-23-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazied

It doesn't duplicate existing functionality because it is the ONLY way to legitimately read Kindle books on the iPad. End of story.

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The app reads books. Apple has an app which reads books. If Apple want to, then the justification is there. Trying to call it at this stage is futile.

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They want Kindle users, (who are consumers with money and who buy lots of books) to drop their Kindles and buy iPads.

...And where is that assumption coming from?

Yoshi 1080 · 03-23-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

The app reads books. Apple has an app which reads books. If Apple want to, then the justification is there. Trying to call it at this stage is futile.

The iBook app is not part of the OS so there is no duplicate functionality.

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...And where is that assumption coming from?

Watch the keynote, Jobs clearly references Amazon's efforts with the Kindle as having laid the foundation for the iPad as an eBook reader. The Kindle is directly targeted, so yeah, it makes absolutely sense to assume that Apple wants Amazon's market share and with it its customers.

kennyc · 03-23-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshi 1080

The iBook app is not part of the OS so there is no duplicate functionality.

Watch the keynote, Jobs clearly references Amazon's efforts with the Kindle as having laid the foundation for the iPad as an eBook reader. The Kindle is directly targeted, so yeah, it makes absolutely sense to assume that Apple wants Amazon's market share and with it its customers.

What??? Neither of those statements make any real sense and certainly don't serve to support the earlier statements.

Dang! There I go agreeing with DF again.

DawnFalcon · 03-23-2010, 12:32 PM

No, the actual assumption I refered to. (That Kindle users "are consumers with money and who buy lots of books")

It's been discussed on here before, and well...

Also, you're reaching. Apple do what they want and justify it. Their completely inconsistent handling of the App store shows that. We just don't know yet, to claim otherwise is silly given their past behaviour.

petermillard · 03-23-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CCDMan

So why, exactly, are they going to the trouble of doing a bookstore then?

Well, why wouldn't they do a bookstore? How much trouble do you think it is to do a bookstore better than say, Sony or even Amazon? Not very, I'd guess - especially if you're Apple and have total control of the device and the software.

And why wouldn't they want to secure content for their device? Why wouldn't they leverage publishers' discontent with the Amazon situation to their advantage? But none of this is driven from a desire to be 'in' the ebook business - this is all about driving hardware sales by making the device more appealing, more indispensable, to as many people as possible.

It's basic business, that's all.

Cheers, Pete.

kennyc · 03-23-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petermillard

How much trouble do you think it is to do a bookstore better than say, Sony or even Amazon? Not very, I'd guess - .....

This is somewhat

since Amazon invented the concept and clearly are the top dog in the on-line book seller business.

abrey · 03-23-2010, 03:06 PM

I have downloaded and use the B&N ebook reader apps for the ipod touch. It works find and a good supplement to carrying the Kindle around.
Have not loacated the ipod tuch application for Amazon.
Brey

cavi · 03-23-2010, 04:02 PM

the kindle app for itouch I think is the sme as the iphone one and is available at the app store.
I for one am very happy for the kindle app. I was never happy with buying books from the sony store, it is dissorganized and missing alot of books, so I have been using the kindle app and calibre to put the books on my sony reader, much better!! Now I will continue to do the same with my ipad next week when it arrives!!

badgoodDeb · 03-23-2010, 05:37 PM

@abrey: Yeah, look for "kindle" in the app name, not amazon.

03-23-2010, 10:47 AM	#35
johndoesecond Connoisseur Posts: 55 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Kindle DX, Kindle 4, Kindle PW2	Ceci Tuera Cela In the face of all the recent “ceci tuera cela” arguments (Kindle killing, iPad failing kind of stuff), this seems to me the most reasonable and predictable accommodation, both companies falling back to what they are better in: Amazon selling books (no matter on whose device), Apple selling hardware (no matter whose book). Isn't it?

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cavi Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 580 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: prs600	the kindle app for itouch I think is the sme as the iphone one and is available at the app store. I for one am very happy for the kindle app. I was never happy with buying books from the sony store, it is dissorganized and missing alot of books, so I have been using the kindle app and calibre to put the books on my sony reader, much better!! Now I will continue to do the same with my ipad next week when it arrives!!

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