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08-06-2012, 08:05 AM | #34 |
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Help me with my thinking here.
I saw where Win8 was going to be offered for $40 or so during Oct. I planned to acquire a copy for my wife's computer which is less than a year old and has Win 7 on it. The computer is a whiz-bang and should be good for at least 4 or 5 years. I even have an extended warranty on it. I was then going to wait for at least the first service package update to be available to install Win8. Hopefully by then the beast would be tamed somewhat. Is that a reasonable plan? |
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Can you do that, or is the $40 upgrade only for a download "there and then", I wonder?
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08-06-2012, 08:31 AM | #36 | |
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Perfectly reasonable...
...if you figure you're going to move to Win8 at some point. (And you don't necessarilly need to wait for the first official Service Pack--just check the more reputable review sites like Anandtech to see if there are any show-stoppers and when they are addressed.) You can also do what Harry and a zillion others are doing and try the Preview, even if its in a Virtual Machine environment. Most of the nay-saying about Win8 is really coming from the Corporate side of the PC world and those folks *always* whine about GUI changes. (Not without reason--they typically have hundreds/thousands of machines to upgrade and users to retrain. But if it were up to them, we'd all be using DOS 15.1. ) Check this from April 1997: http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/feature/19...ills-adventure Quote:
Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 had similar "issues" mostly because MS moved graphics drivers down to the Kernel "endangering" stability. (shrug) Windows servers many customers so any change is certain to rub somebody the wrong way. So Win8 nay-saying is just business as usual. They'll get over it. Eventually. Last edited by fjtorres; 08-06-2012 at 08:34 AM. |
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The only real change is that you launch apps from a screen that looks very like the iPad or Android home screen, rather than a heirarchical "Start Menu", and that makes a lot of sense to me, given that a lot of people are now familiar with such interfaces.
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08-06-2012, 08:44 AM | #38 | |
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The thing people forget is MS has extensive usability labs where they test how actual users actually use PCs. And, as they've pointed out, over the past decade, people have been relying on desktop and launchbar shortcuts more than the Start Menu. So the (no-longer) Metro interface is just a natural evolution of that user mode. It's a tempest in a teacup: I fullly expect to see a hundred different Start Menu tweaks to come for Win8, right from launch. With at least one coming from MS itself, just like TweakUI and the other PowerToys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweak_UI All it takes is a tweak to force a boot to the desktop and allow a hotkey to a text menu version of the Start Screen. Last edited by fjtorres; 08-06-2012 at 08:50 AM. |
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08-06-2012, 12:45 PM | #41 |
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Hardly.
The GUI-style formerly known as Metro is an evolution of existing MS GUIs. It's not all that similar and, where there is similarity (Live Tiles, etc) it is in areas where Android and iOS have been copying from ZUNE, Windows Phone, and XBOX. Anyway, to understand why the corporate types are hyperventilating over Win 8, check this out: http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-real-w...up-7000002134/ Last edited by fjtorres; 08-06-2012 at 12:48 PM. |
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Win7 was the first OS update I paid for unless you count Me where MS upgraded my memory, disk, and gave me a digital camera for free when I dropped $90 on the OS upgrade. I got the three pack for ~$120. I have a v8 upgrade which Staples is paying for. I hope it is not tied to the machine I just purchased because my wife is not a fan of change (would not go from Vista to 7) and I am. |
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I plan to go from Win 7 to Chrome as soon as they slash ~$100 off the Chromebox.
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08-07-2012, 11:12 AM | #44 | |
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On top of that, some of the upgrades are intended for consumers. I doubt that Metro will be used in most corporate environments for anything beyond an application launcher. Yes, there are some new features in there for corporations but are they going to be enough to outweigh the hinderance of the consumer features? |
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No idea if ipads etc allow users to arrange the icons as they prefer (my experience is limited to very frustrating incidents with other people's devices), but I'd gotten the impression that even if they can put them in the order they want, they can't leave blank spaces--I wouldn't expect to be able to put "all the word processing/doc conversion software" at the top of the screen, and "all the internet/email/communications software" at the bottom, and "all the games" on a line at the right-hand side. I use the Start menu for most of the programs I open most often, with most of the rest of my activities starting from an explorer window. I'm considering that when my XP box finally needs to be replaced, it's time to learn Linux and run a Windows emulator so I can use Finereader and the handful of other programs I care about that don't have Linux versions. If I need to learn an OS from scratch, it might as well be something I know I can configure the way I'd like it to be. |
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