New Overdrive coming and it is awful - Page 29

jhowell · 11-01-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Overdrive is now pushing Kindle eBooks. This is a poor design choice.

I like how they now put Kindle first, read online second, and download via ADE last. You can also just have it default to send to Kindle with a setting.

booklover6 · 11-01-2017, 11:20 AM

Thanks, hopefully the problem will be resolved so I can get the books on to my devices.

JSWolf · 11-01-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I like how they now put Kindle first, read online second, and download via ADE last. You can also just have it default to send to Kindle with a setting.

I find it a horrible design choice. Someone needs to be fired.

JSWolf · 11-01-2017, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Deskisamess

There is chatter on the Kindle forum on Amazon about it. Seems to be a known problem.

https://www.amazonforum.com/forums/d...ot-found-error

And here: https://www.amazonforum.com/forums/k...-library-books

According to the second thread, Kindle Unlimited is also not working.

AnemicOak · 11-01-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I find it a horrible design choice. Someone needs to be fired.

Why does someone need to be fired? Because your preferred format (it's mine too btw) isn't at the top of the list? I'd have to guess that OD has data that tells them they have more Kindle downloads than the other types so they've prioritized that in the list. Makes sense to me.

JSWolf · 11-01-2017, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Why does someone need to be fired? Because your preferred format (it's mine too btw) isn't at the top of the list? I'd have to guess that OD has data that tells them they have more Kindle downloads than the other types so they've prioritized that in the list. Makes sense to me.

The best way to handle this is to make the preferred format a selectable option in settings and then you see Kindle or ePub first. Then the layout can remain as it was. That would work best. The new layout is ugly.

AnemicOak · 11-01-2017, 12:23 PM

Yes, a preferred format would be a great way to do things I agree.

Barbara1955 · 11-01-2017, 12:45 PM

I gave up when they made the change. Also Lost 10 Audiobooks I purchased thru different sites they would only work in the WAV [?] Format

jhowell · 11-01-2017, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Yes, a preferred format would be a great way to do things I agree.

They did that, but only for Kindle. From What updates have been made to my library's digital collection recently?:

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October 30, 2017

Updates for libraries that offer Kindle Books (U.S. only):

You can now make Kindle your reading preference so you only see the Kindle option for borrowed eBooks.
Kindle-compatible eBooks now have a Read now with Kindle button on the Loans page.
A new Kindle Books link appears in the site navigation (or under Menu icon on mobile devices) so you can easily see all Kindle-compatible titles in the collection.

The Read in browser and Listen in browser buttons for eBooks and audiobooks were changed to Read now in browser and Listen now in browser.

JSWolf · 11-01-2017, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

They did that, but only for Kindle. From What updates have been made to my library's digital collection recently?:

In English, Overdrive just jumped Amazon's bones in a big way.

haertig · 11-01-2017, 05:45 PM

I noticed that with the new choices for download type (Kindle being more in-your-face now), that you now longer can see if you have downloaded the book of not. I have books that auto-checkout from the library when they become available, then I have to go to the library "Loan" page and download it. Which is fine. But if you succumb to their push for making Kindle the default format, then you can't tell the difference between a downloaded book and one that is waiting to be downloaded. But if you tell them NOT to make Kindle your default format, then a second download button is present (for ePub) if you haven't downloaded. Once you've downloaded, then that ePub choice button goes away.

So the moral of this story is, don't set Kindle format as your default, even if that's the format you prefer. Otherwise you can't quickly tell what has been downloaded and what has not been. Of course you could figure it out - by looking at your email that tells you specifically what was auto-checked-out. So it's not the end of the world. But it's an inconvenience IMHO.

haertig · 11-01-2017, 05:58 PM

This morning I was not able to return library books. The Amazon "Manage my Content" webpage appeared to operate normally, even giving its normal "success" popup. But it didn't work. I called Amazon and they said it was a known issue that they were working on. After letting things sit for a few hours, the books that I had checked back in did eventually make it through the process.

Probably an unanticipated glitch in their Overdrive "upgrade" (downgrade??!) process.

JSWolf · 11-01-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

Probably an unanticipated glitch in their Overdrive "upgrade" (downgrade??!) process.

Or it could be an issue with all the new Oasis in use and then there is the new firmware for the PW2 on up. So it could maybe be an overload of the servers.

Blossom · 11-01-2017, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

This morning I was not able to return library books. The Amazon "Manage my Content" webpage appeared to operate normally, even giving its normal "success" popup. But it didn't work. I called Amazon and they said it was a known issue that they were working on. After letting things sit for a few hours, the books that I had checked back in did eventually make it through the process.

Probably an unanticipated glitch in their Overdrive "upgrade" (downgrade??!) process.

I suspect it's due to the new Audible loan program for romance they launch today. It's probably on the same server. KU wasn't working either.

As for how to tell what's been downloaded at the bottom it will say return or how to return. How to return means you downloaded it. Return means it can be returned through Overdrive's page because it hasn't been downloaded yet.

Sent from my XT1528

haertig · 11-02-2017, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

How to return means you downloaded it. Return means it can be returned through Overdrive's page because it hasn't been downloaded yet.

Ah! Good to know. I didn't pick up on that detail myself. I'll watch for it the next time one of my auto-borrows comes available. Thanks!

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11-01-2017, 11:20 AM	#422
booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,545 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre 1, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle, Kobo Libre Colour	Thanks, hopefully the problem will be resolved so I can get the books on to my devices.

11-01-2017, 12:23 PM	#427
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Yes, a preferred format would be a great way to do things I agree.

11-01-2017, 12:45 PM	#428
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	I gave up when they made the change. Also Lost 10 Audiobooks I purchased thru different sites they would only work in the WAV [?] Format

11-01-2017, 05:45 PM	#431
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,899 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	I noticed that with the new choices for download type (Kindle being more in-your-face now), that you now longer can see if you have downloaded the book of not. I have books that auto-checkout from the library when they become available, then I have to go to the library "Loan" page and download it. Which is fine. But if you succumb to their push for making Kindle the default format, then you can't tell the difference between a downloaded book and one that is waiting to be downloaded. But if you tell them NOT to make Kindle your default format, then a second download button is present (for ePub) if you haven't downloaded. Once you've downloaded, then that ePub choice button goes away. So the moral of this story is, don't set Kindle format as your default, even if that's the format you prefer. Otherwise you can't quickly tell what has been downloaded and what has not been. Of course you could figure it out - by looking at your email that tells you specifically what was auto-checked-out. So it's not the end of the world. But it's an inconvenience IMHO.

11-01-2017, 05:58 PM	#432
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,899 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	This morning I was not able to return library books. The Amazon "Manage my Content" webpage appeared to operate normally, even giving its normal "success" popup. But it didn't work. I called Amazon and they said it was a known issue that they were working on. After letting things sit for a few hours, the books that I had checked back in did eventually make it through the process. Probably an unanticipated glitch in their Overdrive "upgrade" (downgrade??!) process.

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