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MzMARR · 12-07-2012, 07:26 PM

Isn't it a personal definition that cannot be defined by a dictionary?

victauria · 12-07-2012, 07:29 PM

If it can't be defined by a dictionary, then by what shall we define it? Aren't all the words in the dictionary?

MzMARR · 12-07-2012, 08:13 PM

How can it be proved that ALL the words are in the dictionary?

victauria · 12-07-2012, 10:22 PM

Do we need to prove it? Have you come across a word that is not in a dictionary?

Katel · 12-07-2012, 10:50 PM

But can not the inflection of a word change its meaning?

Solitaire1 · 12-08-2012, 12:28 AM

Due to the nature of language, how could a static dictionary contain every word of a language?

red_phoenix · 12-08-2012, 06:29 AM

Aren't new words being invented and therefore added to the dictionary every year?

victauria · 12-08-2012, 10:34 AM

New words are added every year, old words are updated, inflections are examined and debated; however, has this abundance given us clarity and understanding or simply expanded our ability to split hairs?

Spoiler:

Solitaire1 · 12-09-2012, 01:14 AM

So, a complete and all-inclusive dictionary is an impossibility?

HomeInMyShoes · 12-10-2012, 07:11 AM

Glarb be barg farg?

Dylrob · 12-10-2012, 08:52 AM

Did you just have a stroke?

victauria · 12-10-2012, 09:26 AM

Is it Avatar-speak? Is it Klingon? Is it peanut butter in your micro servers?

HomeInMyShoes · 12-10-2012, 09:35 AM

Can I not make up my own words?

Dylrob · 12-10-2012, 11:49 AM

Is it really a word if it cannot be understood by anyone but yourself?

HomeInMyShoes · 12-10-2012, 02:20 PM

What about futures selves? Doesn't someone have to be the originator?

12-08-2012, 10:34 AM	#4193
victauria Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,990 Karma: 17560944 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Florida, USA Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD	New words are added every year, old words are updated, inflections are examined and debated; however, has this abundance given us clarity and understanding or simply expanded our ability to split hairs? Spoiler: From oxforddictionaires.com: How many words are there in the English language? There is no single sensible answer to this question. It's impossible to count the number of words in a language, because it's so hard to decide what actually counts as a word. Is dog one word, or two (a noun meaning 'a kind of animal', and a verb meaning 'to follow persistently')? If we count it as two, then do we count inflections separately too (e.g. dogs = plural noun, dogs = present tense of the verb). Is dog-tired a word, or just two other words joined together? Is hot dog really two words, since it might also be written as hot-dog or even hotdog? It's also difficult to decide what counts as 'English'. What about medical and scientific terms? Latin words used in law, French words used in cooking, German words used in academic writing, Japanese words used in martial arts? Do you count Scots dialect? Teenage slang? Abbreviations? The Second Edition of the 20-volume Oxford English Dictionary contains full entries for 171,476 words in current use, and 47,156 obsolete words. To this may be added around 9,500 derivative words included as subentries. Over half of these words are nouns, about a quarter adjectives, and about a seventh verbs; the rest is made up of exclamations, conjunctions, prepositions, suffixes, etc. And these figures don't take account of entries with senses for different word classes (such as noun and adjective). This suggests that there are, at the very least, a quarter of a million distinct English words, excluding inflections, and words from technical and regional vocabulary not covered by the OED, or words not yet added to the published dictionary, of which perhaps 20 per cent are no longer in current use. If distinct senses were counted, the total would probably approach three quarters of a million.

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12-07-2012, 07:26 PM	#4186
MzMARR ~♪♫♪♫~ Posts: 398 Karma: 5000000 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Florida, USA Device: iPad2	Isn't it a personal definition that cannot be defined by a dictionary?

12-07-2012, 07:29 PM	#4187
victauria Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,990 Karma: 17560944 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Florida, USA Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD	If it can't be defined by a dictionary, then by what shall we define it? Aren't all the words in the dictionary?

12-07-2012, 08:13 PM	#4188
MzMARR ~♪♫♪♫~ Posts: 398 Karma: 5000000 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Florida, USA Device: iPad2	How can it be proved that ALL the words are in the dictionary?

12-07-2012, 10:22 PM	#4189
victauria Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,990 Karma: 17560944 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Florida, USA Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD	Do we need to prove it? Have you come across a word that is not in a dictionary?

12-07-2012, 10:50 PM	#4190
Katel Evangelist Posts: 402 Karma: 10038776 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NSW Regional Device: Kobo Aura	But can not the inflection of a word change its meaning?

12-08-2012, 12:28 AM	#4191
Solitaire1 Samurai Lizard Posts: 15,012 Karma: 70029956 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: NookColor, Nook Glowlight 4	Due to the nature of language, how could a static dictionary contain every word of a language?

12-08-2012, 06:29 AM	#4192
red_phoenix Grand Sorcerer Posts: 18,417 Karma: 445850508 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Sony PRS-T1	Aren't new words being invented and therefore added to the dictionary every year?

12-09-2012, 01:14 AM	#4194
Solitaire1 Samurai Lizard Posts: 15,012 Karma: 70029956 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: NookColor, Nook Glowlight 4	So, a complete and all-inclusive dictionary is an impossibility?

12-10-2012, 07:11 AM	#4195
HomeInMyShoes Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	Glarb be barg farg?

12-10-2012, 08:52 AM	#4196
Dylrob Murderous Mustela Posts: 10,234 Karma: 48000000 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The other land of schnitzel and beer Device: iPad M1 Pro, Kindle Paperwhite	Did you just have a stroke?

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12-10-2012, 09:26 AM	#4197
victauria Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,990 Karma: 17560944 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Florida, USA Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD	Is it Avatar-speak? Is it Klingon? Is it peanut butter in your micro servers?

12-10-2012, 09:35 AM	#4198
HomeInMyShoes Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	Can I not make up my own words?

12-10-2012, 11:49 AM	#4199
Dylrob Murderous Mustela Posts: 10,234 Karma: 48000000 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The other land of schnitzel and beer Device: iPad M1 Pro, Kindle Paperwhite	Is it really a word if it cannot be understood by anyone but yourself?

12-10-2012, 02:20 PM	#4200
HomeInMyShoes Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	What about futures selves? Doesn't someone have to be the originator?