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Old 08-16-2010, 03:17 AM   #391
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You can't make this stuff up. There is a relatively new conservative alternative to Wikipedia called Conservapedia that bills itself as "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia." The following excerpt is from that source. For the record, I don't believe there's a scientist alive who believes that Einstein's General Theory of Relativity is the final word on the way the universe works or that it is a complete theory. It's incompatibility with Quantum Mechanics is hardly a secret, as thousands of books and courses on the subjects of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics make clear; but the idea that General Relativity is a liberal conspiracy is unique to a special mindset.
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Ooh, I remember Conservapedia. Thanks for reminding me It's mind-boggling!!
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You can't make this stuff up. There is a relatively new conservative alternative to Wikipedia called Conservapedia that bills itself as "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia." The following excerpt is from that source. For the record, I don't believe there's a scientist alive who believes that Einstein's General Theory of Relativity is the final word on the way the universe works or that it is a complete theory. It's incompatibility with Quantum Mechanics is hardly a secret, as thousands of books and courses on the subjects of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics make clear; but the idea that General Relativity is a liberal conspiracy is unique to a special mindset.

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.....The theory of relativity is a mathematical system that allows no exceptions. It is heavily promoted by liberals who like its encouragement of relativism and its tendency to mislead people in how they view the world.[1] Here is a list of 28 counterexamples: any one of them shows that the theory is incorrect.
........ 9. The action-at-a-distance by Jesus, described in John 4:46-54.
..........— From the Conservapedia article, "Counterexamples to Relativity." The FOOTNOTE referenced above reads: "[1] See, e.g., historian Paul Johnson's book about the 20th century, and the article written by liberal law professor Laurence Tribe as allegedly assisted by Barack Obama. Virtually no one who is taught and believes relativity continues to read the Bible, a book that outsells New York Times bestsellers by a hundred-fold."

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For more on the subject, see the recent article at NewScientist.com entitled "E=mc2? Not on Conservapedia" by Amanda Gefter and Celeste Biever.


Hmm... I don't know much about the Bible, but I seem to remember that Jesus walked on water. Does it mean Archimedes and Newton were both members of The Great Liberal Conspiracy?
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:23 AM   #393
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Hmm... I don't know much about the Bible, but I seem to remember that Jesus walked on water. Does it mean Archimedes and Newton were both members of The Great Liberal Conspiracy?
You mean you didn't know that?! Of course they were
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Just think... what if Archimedes had been a conservative? Would his theory be correct then? Would Jesus have drowned?
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Right now I am browsing through the Zen proverbs on Wikiquote.

My favorites so far:

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When the pupil is ready to learn, a teacher will appear.
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If you cannot find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

Dogen
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And the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.

T.S. Eliot

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Right now I am browsing though the Zen proverbs on Wikiquote.

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When the pupil is ready to learn, a teacher will appear.

I like this one myself (I've seen it attributed to a number of different sources though)
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I seem to remember that Jesus walked on water.
But this has been recently documented, and, truly in Zen style, it ties with what you girls were discussing.
There is a high speed video of the teacher (Joel Grey) and the pupil (Fred Ward) doing just that. For reference . It got even nominated for an award. Important.
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But this has been recently documented, and, truly in Zen style, it ties with what you girls were discussing.
There is a high speed video of the teacher (Joel Grey) and the pupil (Fred Ward) doing just that. For reference . It got even nominated for an award. Important.
Emm... Beppe, don't take this the wrong way, but... I don't much care whether he did or not. Or could have, if he had watched this video
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Since Tom brought up Conservapedia...
I found the following in the article on Feminism - I'm still laughing so hard I'm crying:

Feminism originally was an expression used by suffragettes - who were predominantly pro-life - to obtain the right for women to vote in the early 1900s in the United States and the United Kingdom. By the 1970s, however, liberals had changed the meaning to represent people who favored abortion and identical roles or quotas for women in the military and in society as a whole.

Specifically, a modern feminist tends to:

* believe that there are no meaningful differences between men and women (The most significant belief underlying contemporary feminism is that there are no sex differences; therefore advocacy for equal rights must be extended to advocacy for equal results or outcomes.)
* oppose chivalry and even feign insult at harmless displays of it (see battle between the sexes)
* view traditional marriage as unacceptably patriarchal
* detest women who are happy in traditional roles, such as housewives, and especially dislike those who defend such roles
* shirk traditional gender activities, like baking
* support affirmative action for women
* prefer that women wear pants rather than dresses, presumably because men do
* seek women in combat in the military just like men, and coed submarines
* refuse to take her husband's last name when marrying
* distort historical focus onto female figures, often overshadowing important events (Eg: Henry VIII's wives take precedence in common knowledge to his actual reign.)
* object to being addressed as "ma'am," or feminine nicknames such as "sweetheart" or "honey"; object to other female-only names, such as "temptress"


Other interesting articles: on Michelle Obama (starts "neutral", but slides quickly into bitching - has to be read to be believed), on homosexuality (if you weren't scared of it before, you will be ), dinosaurs (one long defence of creationism).

The thought that some people might read this and not be able to see how they distort and skew facts is scary
But mostly reading is:

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Conservapedia on Atheism:
Atheism, as defined by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy, and other philosophy reference works, is the denial of the existence of God. Unlike Christianity, which is supported by a large body of sound evidence (see: Christian apologetics), atheism has no proof and evidence supporting its ideology.

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Emm... Beppe, don't take this the wrong way, but... I don't much care whether he did or not. Or could have, if he had watched this video
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But mostly reading is:
Yes, but it's also a useful wake-up call not take propaganda sites that agree with my views too seriously either.

But, as long as they're treated sceptically, they can be very entertaining.
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Yes, but it's also a useful wake-up call not take propaganda sites that agree with my views too seriously either.
Absolutely. I always try to get my news from two or three newspapers, or at least vary which I read, because even if it's far from classic propaganda, your views will be influenced by the editorial line. It's always interesting to see how stories from news agencies are angled differently.
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Very true. The web is a wonderful ressource, provided you don't take everything you read as the truth but take the time to cross-check, even when you agree with what is said.

I actually enjoy doing that, it's a bit like detective work
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