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What I definitely see in your post, though, is that old assumption that you won't be able to make money out of your work with "only" a quarter of a century of monopolistic copyright. I'm sure you're smart and talented enough to find a way to make a living out of your writing even if copyright was erased today. ![]() |
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The expiration of copyright doesn't stop the (ex-)copyright holder doing anything. In particular, The government won't stop them selling the out-of-copyright material book when the copyright expires. Creating is hard and expensive. Copying is easy and cheap. Copyright law should be a balance between the two to bring the greatest benefit to society. |
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changed my mind on this post because it was a silly idea.
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But the government CAN take away your house---I forget the legal word for it, but there was a case of it here recently where they needed to build a subway exit in a certain spot to make it an accessible station, and they offered to buy the house at fair market value and the people living there said no. So there was a way they could force it to serve the public good. It doesn't happen often, but it CAN happen.
I am all for author's rights, but it does burn me a little that some authors seem so unwilling to acknowledge that they owe their predecessors too. They don't write in a vacuum. They borrow, however subconsciously it might be, from those who came before. And so, as part of that social contract, I do think they owe it to the public good to let their work return to that vast pool of human culture someday. We can argue on how far away that someday is---I do think life of the author plus a chunk is fair for them to have full copyright protection---but certainly, 50 years after an author has died, I don't think their heirs have any more moral claim on it than the rest of society does. |
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This is where the idea of allowing copyright to be extended as long as it is being actively renewed applies. If someone is actively trying to keep a book in copyright, whether it is the original author or their heirs, and is keeping it published (in print or e-version), then the book can stay in copyright. If not, it falls into the public domain. Shari |
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Post deleted as the post it was in response to has been deleted. We both agree it seems.
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It depends on the terms of the building. There was an Ask Metafilter question recently from some people who bought a house, intending to live there for years, and had some very nice landscaping done. A few months later, they learned the husband's job was being transferred and they had to sell the house. They got much more than what they paid for it because the landscaper's work had increased the value, and he was coming after them for a share of the profits and they wanted to know what their rights were. The answers they got were overwhelmingly that they were in the clear. They paid the landscaper for his work, it was work for hire, and it was done.
Similarly, my grandfather (since Harry brought him up) has a house which is on a valuable property. The house itself has fallen into disrepair. It would need to be torn down and rebuilt to be habitable again when he passes. So his heirs have the choice to pay whatever it would cost to refurbish the house or tear it down or rebuild it, or they can just sell it as is and let whomever buys the land deal with it, which is likely to happen. A hundred years from now, let's say the new owners of the house turn it into a hotel and make pots of money. Should we be entitled to a share? Of course not. Or, to turn it back to culture for a moment, let's say that my cousin, who is a musician of some local acclaim, becomes super-famous in the next few years and a hundred years from now, they want to turn Grandpa's house into a museum about his work. Who should get the profit from it? Well, I think it depends. The owners, whomever they might be, own the house, absolutely. But let's say my children have inherited, as part of my personal belongings, rare photographs of him and the house wants to exhibit them. Then my children should get paid a license fee for it. Look, if something is in the public domain, it doesn't mean theoretical heirs can't profit from it too. Bram Stoker's great-grandson published a mediocre Dracula spin-off a few years ago that likely would not have seen the light of day had he not cashed in on the Stoker name. The public domain just means that *I* could write one too, because the work has passed into the public domain and become part of humanity's shared cultural heritage. If JK Rowling's great-grandchildren want to write their own Harry Potter novels, who is stopping them? |
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Not disagreeing in principal, but I wouldn't like it. And imagine the effect on the economy. Helen |
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I didn't say anything about squatting. What I meant was that while I think 28 years is too short a period for copyright, nothing is taken away by the copyright period expiring and the work entering the public domain, it's like the expiration of a lease.
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I know you did not mention squatting, but it seemed to be implied. If exclusitivity is removed from a house for example, you or your heirs still own it, just not exclusively. Someone else could go live there too.
Not the way the world works at present, and I am sure that some would argue that most homeowners would work hard and build or buy houses just from the overwhelming desire to do so, whether or not they got any long term benefit from them. Probably a few hundred would. Helen |
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