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TGS · 06-19-2010, 06:12 PM

Denmark won then!

Moejoe · 06-19-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TGS

Denmark won then!

Congrats!!

TGS · 06-19-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

Congrats!!

I only live here...quite wanted Cameroon to win but don't tell the neighbours

yvanleterrible · 06-19-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TGS

I only live here...quite wanted Cameroon to win but don't tell the neighbours

That brings us back to the subject of why is football so divisive.
Community pressure?

If one were living in... Millwall, for example. That person would be subjected to very nasty social retaliation if it decided to root for an opposing team.

Steve Anderson · 06-19-2010, 09:04 PM

We are red, we are white, we are Danish dynamite!

Actually, I'm a Yank, but I just like that song and the way the Danes get after it. Nice win.

The US didn't get robbed by that call yesterday -- we made our own bad luck by going 2 down! Hopefully we can learn from our early mistakes.

The ordeals of being a lifelong American soccer fan can be cruel and don't I know it.

Steve

ShortNCuddlyAm · 06-19-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

In sports you cheer for a team mainly, not the particularly players.

At least not in the era of free agency with players moving around and it being very rare for players to stay with one team. College sports have always been that way since players can only play four years.

Reasons for following a particular team can be varied. It can be the local team in the city or state you live (or country in the World Cup case) etc. Or it can be more random reasons.
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Thank you

Supporting the team of the area in which you live or were born I can understand more than the more seemingly random reasons.

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Originally Posted by beppe

It is a passion. You develop it in time, starting since little. It pertains to the belonging factors and effects (1). One cultivates it with fetishes and icons (flags, caps, car stickers, scarfs, neck ties, pins, my wife uses also socks,...) and the nagging with adverse parties makes it stick. We are encouraging little daughter, and she shows already a strong belonging to my team, against theirs (mother, granddad and uncle). Intelligent kid.
The object in itself is irrelevant. It is the belonging that matters. Swift would have liked this so much.

in your case, for the little that I understand of you from your posts, I would say to you to just enjoy seeing it from the outside. You do not miss nothing. But you might have occasions to distinguish yourself if the day after a particularly relevant event you sport a pin, or maybe paint your face like in your avatar. discreetly.

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(1) the belonging just comes after the creature needs in Maslow's pyramid (you know the socio thing, creature, your peers, your boss, yourself as gratifiers).
It is an adolescence process and those are very sweet!

I will continue to enjoy it from the outside I think

I didn't grow up with people who were particularly into any sport, so I suspect it never imprinted on me.

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Originally Posted by Ankh

Milorad Jovanović still plays for Standard de Liège. He signed a deal with Liverpool and will join them on July 1st.

Wish I'd known that on the day - the way they were going on you'd've thought he'd been playing for Liverpool for ages!

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I can not talk about the fans for other nations (I assume it is not much different), but Serbs have no problems with the identification. Although most of their players play in foreign teams, they:
- still have Serbian citizenship
- have been born and raised in Serbia, started their careers in local clubs
- will likely switch several clubs and countries by the end of their careers.
- will likely never play for the selection of another country.

While discussion about the clubs is open, the nation-state and citizenship can hardly be compared with the tribe and tribal mentality. At least there is a specific language and identification with the common culture.

I don't follow soccer in general, but I won't miss a single game that I can catch when it is played by any national selection. The game is different, it is not (only) about the money.

Thank you - it all helps my understanding

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Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

That brings us back to the subject of why is football so divisive.
Community pressure?

If one were living in... Millwall, for example. That person would be subjected to very nasty social retaliation if it decided to root for an opposing team.

Also Glasgow, going into the wrong area in the wrong team's colours. At least, that's how it used be, no idea if it still is. I think (but I may well be wrong) that there is underlying religious reasons behind which team there you choose to support.

HarryT · 06-20-2010, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Also Glasgow, going into the wrong area in the wrong team's colours. At least, that's how it used be, no idea if it still is. I think (but I may well be wrong) that there is underlying religious reasons behind which team there you choose to support.

Yes, in Glasgow, there was at one time (and still is, but to a very much lesser extent) a very strong religious association with the two teams: Celtic are the Catholic team, Rangers the Protestant. It's essentially the same as the religious divide in Northern Ireland, and at one time, the Glasgow teams (or rather, their supporters) were very strongly connected with fund-raising for the paramilitaries in Northern Ireland. Luckily, all that is now behind us.

David Munch · 06-20-2010, 07:33 AM

yay, we won!

We really needed that victory.. Cameroon is out the cup now.

yvanleterrible · 06-20-2010, 09:34 AM

Paraguay confirmed it, a team worthy of the greatest honors.

They're at their best in close quarter confrontation, always winding up with the ball. And they master yet another difficult skill; however the ball bobbled, they still managed to control it. Difficult indeed, believe me... Couple that with crisp passing and their control is next to optimal.

ravenne · 06-20-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by David Munch

yay, we won!

We really needed that victory.. Cameroon is out the cup now.

Congrats, David!

And Bravo, Iaquinta!!! He just brought Italy back in the game against New Zealand. 1:1 right now.

GeoffC · 06-20-2010, 11:44 AM

European Teams are letting the Continent down .... excepting one or two obvious ones !!!!

GeoffC · 06-20-2010, 11:53 AM

Interesting stats ... Score 1 : 1

Possession Italy 54% NZ 46%
Attempts on target 9 : 1
Attempts off target 8 : 2
Corners 10 : 0
Fouls 10 : 23 !!!!!

netseeker · 06-20-2010, 11:55 AM

New Zealand "wins" 1:1.

dmaul1114 · 06-20-2010, 12:01 PM

That's probably the most shocking result of the Cup so far. Italy is 5t in the Fifa rankings, NZ is 78th.

Logseman · 06-20-2010, 12:36 PM

Italy ALWAYS does the same. They suck ass in the qualifiers, they get (usually) unfairly qualified for the KO-rounds in the last minute, and from there on, they begin to play only a little bit better and they always make their way quite far, or they win the cup. It's not a coincidence that the word which defines the most defensive of football stances is Italian. It's called "catenaccio", "padlock" in English. We saw a great example of catenaccio this very year, in the semifinal games between Barcelona and Inter Milan, in the Champions League.

View Poll Results: What team will win the Cup?
Portugal	5	6.02%
England	4	4.82%
Italy	2	2.41%
Netherlands	4	4.82%
Spain	11	13.25%
Germany	15	18.07%
Slovenia	2	2.41%
France	2	2.41%
Greece	0	0%
Switzerland	1	1.20%
Serbia	1	1.20%
Slovakia	0	0%
Brazil	6	7.23%
Argentinia	5	6.02%
Chile	0	0%
Paraguay	0	0%
Mexico	2	2.41%
USA	6	7.23%
Honduras	0	0%
South Africa	0	0%
Algeria	0	0%
Ivory Coast	0	0%
Ghana	1	1.20%
Cameroon	0	0%
Australia	3	3.61%
Japan	2	2.41%
North Korea	1	1.20%
South Korea	1	1.20%
New Zealand	2	2.41%
none of the above	7	8.43%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

06-19-2010, 09:04 PM	#350
Steve Anderson Addict Posts: 226 Karma: 260821 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Device: iPhone, laptop, more	We are red, we are white, we are Danish dynamite! Actually, I'm a Yank, but I just like that song and the way the Danes get after it. Nice win. The US didn't get robbed by that call yesterday -- we made our own bad luck by going 2 down! Hopefully we can learn from our early mistakes. The ordeals of being a lifelong American soccer fan can be cruel and don't I know it. Steve Last edited by Steve Anderson; 06-19-2010 at 09:18 PM.

06-20-2010, 09:34 AM	#354
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Paraguay confirmed it, a team worthy of the greatest honors. They're at their best in close quarter confrontation, always winding up with the ball. And they master yet another difficult skill; however the ball bobbled, they still managed to control it. Difficult indeed, believe me... Couple that with crisp passing and their control is next to optimal. Last edited by yvanleterrible; 06-20-2010 at 09:36 AM.

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GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Interesting stats ... Score 1 : 1 Possession Italy 54% NZ 46% Attempts on target 9 : 1 Attempts off target 8 : 2 Corners 10 : 0 Fouls 10 : 23 !!!!!

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06-20-2010, 12:36 PM	#360
Logseman Orisa Posts: 2,001 Karma: 1035571 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Device: Onyx Poke 5	Italy ALWAYS does the same. They suck ass in the qualifiers, they get (usually) unfairly qualified for the KO-rounds in the last minute, and from there on, they begin to play only a little bit better and they always make their way quite far, or they win the cup. It's not a coincidence that the word which defines the most defensive of football stances is Italian. It's called "catenaccio", "padlock" in English. We saw a great example of catenaccio this very year, in the semifinal games between Barcelona and Inter Milan, in the Champions League.

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