Vegetarian?

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

If you didn't mind the funny sensation on your teeth could you add more baking powder or bicarb?

doesn't appear to work ... there are plenty of sites around the web where cooks have tried and failed. they taste okay, but don't rise properly...

[nekokami]

I would think the issue might be that they rise, but don't stay-- the egg doesn't actually make things rise, but hardens in place after the pastry or whatever has risen. That's why I was thinking gluten or some other protein would be needed. Albumen (egg protein) is an irreversable colloid. You'd need something comparable to get the same effect. The other ingredients you mentioned are colloids, but not heat-set irreversable colloids.

Evidently this is still a problem in progress. I liked the posts at this blog: http://parsnipparsimony.wordpress.com/tag/egg-replacer/ Looks like there may be some very interesting posts to come.

[Daithi]

I try to only eat animals that eat plants.

[nekokami]

Originally Posted by Daithi

I try to only eat animals that eat plants.

Animals that eat only plants? (Leaving out pigs, chickens, and most fish?) Or animals that eat plants as part of their diet? (I can't think of any commonly eaten animals that fall into this category....)

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by Daithi

I try to only eat animals that eat plants.

ah ah ! an intelligent animal that manages to spit out grass-living insects before eating ..... and the odd slug or two ...

[Daithi]

Cows and chickens mostly.

[nekokami]

Um... chickens are not vegetarians (by choice). They like to eat lots of bugs, and sometimes each other.

As far as I know, cows would prefer to just eat plants (but in the US I think they are still fed sheep scraps, etc.)

[krisk]

Originally Posted by nekokami

Um... chickens are not vegetarians (by choice). They like to eat lots of bugs, and sometimes each other.

As far as I know, cows would prefer to just eat plants (but in the US I think they are still fed sheep scraps, etc.)

it's not "sheep scraps" perse, it is bones, hooves, and parts of the animal that are not used for anything else are ground and put into meal. this is what becomes a carrier for mad cow. there are a lot of people working very hard to put an end to this.

it's important to know where your meat comes from. back home there was a fantastic butcher that only dealt with local animals and almost only from farms with under 25 head of livestock. one of his specialties was 4-H project animals. no hormones, no steroids etc. fantastic meat!

I am not now, and never will be a vegetarian, I am after all at the top of the food chain. I eat plenty of vegetarian meals, simply because it might be the best way to eat a particular meal, for instance, chilie rellenos, beans, sliced tomatoes. no need for any meat in that one.

I am about to cut out commercially raised/large farm chickens. THAT'S a disgusting slaughter process

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by krisk

it's not "sheep scraps" perse, it is bones, hooves, and parts of the animal that are not used for anything else are ground and put into meal. this is what becomes a carrier for mad cow. there are a lot of people working very hard to put an end to this.

it's important to know where your meat comes from.
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I am about to cut out commercially raised/large farm chickens. THAT'S a disgusting slaughter process

Hear hear to all of that

[Ea]

Because I needed to lose weight, I changed my diet to eat a lot more vegetables (and re-kindled my interest in cooking, to make it more interesting).

Then I also read In Defense of Food, the most sensible book on food and eating I have read in a long time, and I have started to focus much more on the quality of what I eat.

I find that I feel less and less like eating meat, mainly because 1) vegetables are more interesting and varied to cook, and 2) it is much easier to find good quality vegetables than quality meat. And I will not eat low quality food if I can in any way avoid it.

I've just come home from holiday on Iceland, where I had some particularly nice lamb and horse meat. It is really difficult to find anything remotely as good here, especially in single-sized portions. The easy and lazy thing to do is to eat less meat. I like vegetables anyway, and they're fun to cook.

The only moral part of the issue for me, is that meat production is more energy-intensive than vegetables, and I find it right to be a little prudent with my energy consumption.

[etherspin]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Great site -

But what is 'egg replacer', is it a particular brand or a generic name?

its not a brand but a term - in the states i think its called ener-g egg substitute here in australia its orgran brand egg replacer
- basically its tapioca flour and a couple of other ingredients in smaller amounts , very handy cause it lasts forever and you have about 80 eggs worth in a box

there is a really awesome article here about other egg replacements..
http://lifehacker.com/5244390/reduce...gg-substitutes

with regard to baking, if you choose the particular binder based on what you want to make it has tastier results than egg anyway, a banana cake with banana as the binder, muffins with ground flaxseed etc better than an avian period in your cake !

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by etherspin

with regard to baking, if you choose the particular binder based on what you want to make it has tastier results than egg anyway, a banana cake with banana as the binder, muffins with ground flaxseed etc better than an avian period in your cake !

And that was precisely the reason a vegetarian colleague once gave me for why she was fine with eating eggs!

[pagansoul]

I love vegetables. I like meat, sometimes. I have had many meals without any meat but never do I go without greens. My red meat intake is very small by US standards. I may have steak 3 times a year, hamberger once a month. I like BLTs so I may have 2 a week and that's it for pork. I tend to eat chicken the most, at least 3 meals a week. I like imitation crab in my salad.

[disney_mommy]

Here is a non-ethical reason to go veggie:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31681809...wire_services/

The article in its entirety:

Vegetarians show reduced cancer risk
Advantage over meat eaters is highest against blood cancers
Reuters
updated 12:10 p.m. ET, Wed., July 1, 2009

Vegetarians are 12 percent less likely to develop cancer than meat eaters and the advantage is particularly marked when it comes to cancers of the blood, British researchers said on Wednesday.

Past research has shown that eating lots of red or processed meat is linked to a higher rate of stomach cancer and the new study, involving more than 60,000 people, did confirm a lower risk of both stomach and bladder cancer.

But the most striking and surprising difference was in cancers of the blood — such as leukemia, multiple myeloma and non-Hodgkin lymphoma — where the risk of disease was 45 percent lower in vegetarians than in meat eaters.

"More research is needed to substantiate these results and to look for reasons for the differences," Tim Key, study author from the Cancer Research UK epidemiology unit at Oxford University, said.

Key and colleagues, who published their findings in the British Journal of Cancer, followed 61,000 meat eaters and vegetarians for over 12 years, during which time 3,350 of the participants were diagnosed with cancer.

The study, which looked at 20 different types of cancer, found the differences in risk were independent of other factors such as smoking, alcohol intake and obesity, which can all increase the chance of developing cancer.


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[Laz116]

Originally Posted by disney_mommy

Here is a non-ethical reason to go veggie:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31681809...wire_services/

The article in its entirety:

Vegetarians show reduced cancer risk
Advantage over meat eaters is highest against blood cancers
Reuters
updated 12:10 p.m. ET, Wed., July 1, 2009

Vegetarians are 12 percent less likely to develop cancer than meat eaters and the advantage is particularly marked when it comes to cancers of the blood, British researchers said on Wednesday.

Past research has shown that eating lots of red or processed meat is linked to a higher rate of stomach cancer and the new study, involving more than 60,000 people, did confirm a lower risk of both stomach and bladder cancer.

But the most striking and surprising difference was in cancers of the blood — such as leukemia, multiple myeloma and non-Hodgkin lymphoma — where the risk of disease was 45 percent lower in vegetarians than in meat eaters.

"More research is needed to substantiate these results and to look for reasons for the differences," Tim Key, study author from the Cancer Research UK epidemiology unit at Oxford University, said.

Key and colleagues, who published their findings in the British Journal of Cancer, followed 61,000 meat eaters and vegetarians for over 12 years, during which time 3,350 of the participants were diagnosed with cancer.

The study, which looked at 20 different types of cancer, found the differences in risk were independent of other factors such as smoking, alcohol intake and obesity, which can all increase the chance of developing cancer.


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URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31681809...wire_services/



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Actually, if your country has national health care, it is an ethical reason to go veggie. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country and all that stuff...