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Old 03-04-2009, 05:55 PM   #3481
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What I am doing right now: having an anxiety attack. Dammit, tonight is the class I actually like.
*virtual hugs*

Does chamomile tea help? Or Bach Rescue remedy?
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:35 PM   #3482
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That's exactly what I was going to send. You could also add a cuppa hot chocolate, if that would help. Chocolate is good for lots of ills.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:33 PM   #3483
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Filled with some really good booze, watching Lost, and enjoying being in bed for a few hours.

Is it only on the West Coast of the US that "prime time" starts at 8:00?? Or do they do that in the East too??
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:05 PM   #3484
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Thanks, all. I've been considering the cup of hot chocolate (the real kind, of course, made from heated milk with ground Ghiradelli chocolate) but my stomach is resistant to putting anything else in it right now, even chocolate.

It's somewhat better now that I'm home in bed. Going to sleep soon.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #3485
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What I am doing right now: having an anxiety attack. Dammit, tonight is the class I actually like.
Wish I could pass you some of my "survival" meds. I've got some low dose Diazepam that is wonderful for anxiety attacks.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:42 PM   #3486
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Going to watch my TiVoed American Idol epi. Don't hate me now! I like me some drivel every now and then.

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Old 03-05-2009, 06:11 AM   #3487
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As per my opening phrase, I only speak from my own experience. I have a limited "range" of photography I practice. Aside from casual people photography, I do take photos of things in an urban landscape that people might find boring - certainly people wonder why I'm taking photos of some things (a streetlight, a small bit of plumbing against a brick wall, trolleys). Now that I'm somewhat out of the urban landscape, I find flotsam and jetsam to be subjects, and coastal patterns, and other details. In the latter's limited respect, I guess I do subsribe to Henry Miller's "The moment one gives close attention to anything, even a blade of grass, it becomes a mysterious, awesome, indescribably magnificent world in itself".



I don't think I make people look beautiful. Generally the subjects are often critical of my results, because I don't make the age-lines go away, or 'shop the blemishes or stray or unbrushed hair, and I frequently get crit'ed with "It's a shame they're not smiling" (I'm not a "Say cheese" kind of guy). People I take photos of rarely know I am about to take a photo of them, and are frequently not looking at me/the camera.

That is, I don't "make" people look beautiful. Anything in the photo was in the subject when I took it.



I think you're conflating the superficial "beauty" in individuals that I am suggesting into a metaphysical state and statement, and imposing on me the naive optimism of "rose-coloured glasses" that is quite significantly disconnected from my reality. I view the world, not proudly, through cynical eyes, often from a slough of despond that has me begging for airless and drowned relief. I struggle with social interaction, and reflexively recoil from the seeming all-pervasiveness of petit resentments, selfishness and disingenuousness. My "wonder" is not only that we live like this, but that we continue to live.

It is the apparent preoccupation by society and the media with dull, imposed, straightjacketed concepts of "beauty" (where the "ugly duckling" is only ever redeemed by becoming the "swan", and never redeemed by becoming "human" in the eyes of the critics...Shrek aside for the moment ~wry smile~) that makes me surprised, and yet not, when, no matter who I take photos of, they can appear "beautiful". That is, the result is not dependant on what may seem readily apparent to the eye (from general perceptions and quick judgements of "beauty" and "ugliness", to use the extremes).

Which is to say, beauty on the outside is easy...is there. But that metaphysical type...well, if I can't find it in myself...?



I agree. I like spiders...well, all arthropods...all invertebrates really...and vertebrates...basically animals...and plants too....rocks are nice...clouds...the sun...the moon.........

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Very accurate Marc. I always knew you were an artist.

Someone said that beauty is in the details. That person forgot that taking time to find the details and present them to the impatient eye makes the artist.

Eeek! Got to go to work....
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:14 AM   #3488
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Very accurate Marc. I always knew you were an artist.
Someone said that beauty is in the details. That person forgot that taking time to find the details and present them to the impatient eye makes the artist.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:25 AM   #3489
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Thanks for the reply - very interesting.

But just to say:

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I think you're conflating the superficial "beauty" in individuals that I am suggesting into a metaphysical state and statement, and imposing on me the naive optimism of "rose-coloured glasses" that is quite significantly disconnected from my reality.
I wasn't intending, in my post, to conflate or impose.

I would genuinely envy anyone who could see beauty in everyone.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:02 AM   #3490
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Thanks for the reply - very interesting.

But just to say:

I wasn't intending, in my post, to conflate or impose.

I would genuinely envy anyone who could see beauty in everyone.
Sparrow,

I wasn't sure if you were, and, because I am not that hypothetical person (as envious as being that person might be), and instead am "not a happy chappy" too much of the time (okay, perhaps "cynical, neurotically insecure & introverted" is better ), well, I reacted reflexively (and, as usual, way too wordily) to clarify, just in case. Sorry 'bout that. They were helpful and constructive questions you raised, and despite how much I wrote in response to them, they still leave me looking for more answers in and outside of myself. That's a good thing. Thanks.

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........they still leave me looking for more answers in and outside of myself. That's a good thing. Thanks.

Cheers,
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Old 03-05-2009, 08:42 AM   #3492
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Wish I could pass you some of my "survival" meds. I've got some low dose Diazepam that is wonderful for anxiety attacks.
NP. I've got meds of my own, I just hate taking them.
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Old 03-05-2009, 09:07 AM   #3493
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:41 AM   #3495
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Finally reading the information on the pain pills the doc gave me for daytime and driving .... they have this big, will make you drowsy, don't drive warning on them.

Oh, for pete's sake!!!

Another day of driving in pain. Catch you all later.
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