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Old Yesterday, 01:27 PM   #331
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In that case, we restored from a backup and disabled Windows Updates.
Which to me, means it wasn't bricked. IMO.

I thought it did something to the bios (or something else that would make the computer useless as a computer for Windows, Linux, ... .
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To me, if the computer or device is not usable as is, it is bricked. Another example would be a Kobo ereader where the µSD card has failed.

Can you recover a bricked device? Yes. I did that with quite a few wireless routers back when the alternative firmware was first made available. Remember DD-WRT, FreshTomato, OpenWRT and their kin? That you are able to recover from the bricked condition is not really relevant. Do most people have the skill set to recover the device and their data? Again, going back decades, I remember shipping out EEPROMs for Zyxel modems and several of the people I shipped to had tried to burn their own EEPROM and failed.
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To me, if the computer or device is not usable as is, it is bricked. Another example would be a Kobo ereader where the µSD card has failed.

Can you recover a bricked device? Yes. I did that with quite a few wireless routers back when the alternative firmware was first made available. Remember DD-WRT, FreshTomato, OpenWRT and their kin? That you are able to recover from the bricked condition is not really relevant. Do most people have the skill set to recover the device and their data? Again, going back decades, I remember shipping out EEPROMs for Zyxel modems and several of the people I shipped to had tried to burn their own EEPROM and failed.
This is where I think our opinions differ. With the internet, "bricked" devices can be recovered; some rather easily, some take some effort.

To me saying something is/can be bricked can be similar to fud. Earlier it was reported that Windows could be "bricked", no mention of recovering from the "brick" or how difficult it would be.
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This is where I think our opinions differ. With the internet, "bricked" devices can be recovered; some rather easily, some take some effort.
And some devices just can not be recovered even if you are willing to spend a lot more money than anyone is likely to do.

One of my co-workers purchased a Microsoft Zune 16 in late 2008 as a Christmas present for themselves. Bounce ahead to summer, 2010 and their Zune died. No local repair possible and one site that said they could possibly repair it wanted a non-refundable deposit that amounted to $125US (compared to the new price of the Zune 16 at $160US) plus the co-worker got to pay for shipping both ways.
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And some devices just can not be recovered even if you are willing to spend a lot more money than anyone is likely to do.

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Sure, and that is what I would consider bricked.
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