The Vent and Rant Thread

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by AnotherCat

No nothing at all about that, people can pay what they like for cleaners it is of no concern to me if they are not interested in alternatives. I am only interested in mentioning alternatives for others to consider should they wish.

The ones who seem to want to make idiots of themselves enter at around post 33438. Which I see does include you, despite the fact that only yesterday I gave you GPS feedback and a suggestion you seemed to appreciate to try - I indeed wonder...

We were just having fun, taking the idea of do-it-yourself projects and running with it.

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by Glorfindel

I'm confused about the point where this became less about ranting and more about flaming about cleaning chemicals of all things
But carry on, I've just readied another batch of popcorn!

Ah - a vent and rant about the quality of the vent and rant thread 😁

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Back to your regularly scheduled ranting... someone just up and stopped showing up at work.

And that's how a pay period with 22.5 hours scheduled and 3 days off becomes 35 hours and one day off.

Aughh. I hope your company will get you some help soon.

[4691mls]

I'm used to store websites offering me an opportunity to sign in and get special offers and discounts when I first access the site. I just decline and go ahead with looking around. But lately I've come across a few where the sign in popup happens on every page, getting in the way of browsing. The popups can be closed but having to do this on each new page or item is a royal pain. How am I supposed to know if I like your store enough to create an account and buy something if you won't let me look around first? You won't be getting my business.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by 4691mls

I'm used to store websites offering me an opportunity to sign in and get special offers and discounts when I first access the site. I just decline and go ahead with looking around. But lately I've come across a few where the sign in popup happens on every page, getting in the way of browsing. The popups can be closed but having to do this on each new page or item is a royal pain. How am I supposed to know if I like your store enough to create an account and buy something if you won't let me look around first? You won't be getting my business.

What browser do you use and what pop-up blockers are enabled? This is at worst a minor annoyance, here.
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Dennis

[BetterRed]

Organisations that show ads when I'm logged into their sites using a paid subscription account irritate me. IMO I shouldn't need an ad-blocker turned on to avoid their ads, they already got my money - example: The New York Times.

BR

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Organisations that show ads when I'm logged into their sites using a paid subscription account irritate me. IMO I shouldn't need an ad-blocker turned on to avoid their ads, they already got my money - example: The New York Times.

How much more would you be willing to pay for a subscription to get an ad free experience?

The NYT is simply an example of a problem affecting newspapers and consumer magazines in general. The cost of a copy purchased at a newsstand, or via a subscription, doesn't even cover the direct cost of producing the publication. Things like the salaries of the folks working on it and making actual money for the publisher come from advertising. Eliminate ads, and you eliminate the publication. It's simply not possible for the NYT or pretty much anyone else to charge enough for a subscription to dispense with ads.
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Dennis

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

What browser do you use and what pop-up blockers are enabled? This is at worst a minor annoyance, here.
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Dennis

It's only happened with two or three stores so far. Next time I run across s store that does this I'll try another browser - thanks for the suggestion.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

How much more would you be willing to pay for a subscription to get an ad free experience?

The NYT is simply an example of a problem affecting newspapers and consumer magazines in general. The cost of a copy purchased at a newsstand, or via a subscription, doesn't even cover the direct cost of producing the publication. Things like the salaries of the folks working on it and making actual money for the publisher come from advertising. Eliminate ads, and you eliminate the publication. It's simply not possible for the NYT or pretty much anyone else to charge enough for a subscription to dispense with ads.
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Dennis

I know all that, I worked in print media when classifieds were rivers of gold.

I think I've run into a couple sites similar to the ones 4691mls mentioned.

Can't be sure but I think it's when I've clicked on social media links sneaked into main stream media items - probably the UK New Daily Mail, the one that used to be the Daily Telegraph

BR

[binaryhermit]

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Back to your regularly scheduled ranting... someone just up and stopped showing up at work.

And that's how a pay period with 22.5 hours scheduled and 3 days off becomes 35 hours and one day off.

Correction, someone else called off and it ended up being 39 hours...

[Hemmi]

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Correction, someone else called off and it ended up being 39 hours...

Do we work at the same place? I'd be less burned out if everyone could just bother to show up to work. You know, when you're scheduled and all.

[binaryhermit]

Originally Posted by Hemmi

Do we work at the same place?

Probably not.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by 4691mls

It's only happened with two or three stores so far. Next time I run across s store that does this I'll try another browser - thanks for the suggestion.

Which do you use now?

I use Firefox as my production browser under Windows, though I have MS Edge, Google Chrome, and a few other things installed to track development efforts.

In Firefox, I use the uBlock Origin extension. uBlock Origin is a generalized blocker, and can block ads among other things. It keeps rules by site. Open it, and you can get a list of all other domains the one you are visiting links to, and individually choose which get permitted and which get blocked. (For a major commercial site, there may be as many as 70 other domains linked to.) You can usually tell which are ad servers by their names, and block them. Depending on the site, it may take some experiments to determine which you can block and which need to be permitted to allow the site to function as expected, but once you have, it's a "set it and forget it" operation.

Completely eliminating ads may simply not be possible. I accept that and carry on. My interest isn't to eliminate ads - it's to make it possible to actually read the site content without ads getting in the way. As long as I can read the site content, I mostly don't care if I see ads.

You can get uBlock Origin for Firefox here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ublock-origin/

Note that major browsers are all moving to a common model for extensions - pure JavaScript with a common permitted access model - and uBlock Origin is available for MS Edge and Google Chrome, too, though there will be differences in the UI.
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Dennis

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

Which do you use now?

I use Firefox as my production browser under Windows, though I have MS Edge, Google Chrome, and a few other things installed to track development efforts.

In Firefox, I use the uBlock Origin extension. uBlock Origin is a generalized blocker, and can block ads among other things. It keeps rules by site. Open it, and you can get a list of all other domains the one you are visiting links to, and individually choose which get permitted and which get blocked. (For a major commercial site, there may be as many as 70 other domains linked to.) You can usually tell which are ad servers by their names, and block them. Depending on the site, it may take some experiments to determine which you can block and which need to be permitted to allow the site to function as expected, but once you have, it's a "set it and forget it" operation.

Completely eliminating ads may simply not be possible. I accept that and carry on. My interest isn't to eliminate ads - it's to make it possible to actually read the site content without ads getting in the way. As long as I can read the site content, I mostly don't care if I see ads.

You can get uBlock Origin for Firefox here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ublock-origin/

Note that major browsers are all moving to a common model for extensions - pure JavaScript with a common permitted access model - and uBlock Origin is available for MS Edge and Google Chrome, too, though there will be differences in the UI.
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Dennis

I was using Opera Mini on my phone. It's not ads, it's the store itself asking me to sign in over and over again. I think it happened with two or three stores. Usually I don't have any problems browsing stores on my phone, but If I run into this again and it's a store I really want to look at I will try another phone browser or use my PC.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by 4691mls

I was using Opera Mini on my phone. It's not ads, it's the store itself asking me to sign in over and over again. I think it happened with two or three stores. Usually I don't have any problems browsing stores on my phone, but If I run into this again and it's a store I really want to look at I will try another phone browser or use my PC.

The store repeatedly asking you to sign in sounds like a cookie problem.

When you sign into a site, the site will place a cookie on your device to record the fact you have signed in. If something is too aggressive about clearing cookies, or not allowing them to be placed in the first place, you'll see that sort of thing. You may wish to clear any cookies when you leave a site, but that should not happen until you leave.

I do very little browsing on my mobile devices. For the most part, if I'm using mobile device I'm in transit, and doing other things. Most of what I do on mobile devices is specifically offline in local mode, working on locally stored data, and devices and apps are configured for that usage. The vast majority of what I do that requires browsing and Internet access (like email) can wait until I am at my PC.

On mobile, I use Firefox or Google Chrome on the odd occasions I need to browse, but look at others on occasion to track development. I looked at Opera Mini back when but passed, and have passed on the current desktop Opera versions as well. The blocker for me was a major version upgrade that appeared to remove the ability to import bookmarks from other browsers. I have thousands of accumulated bookmarks I want available in any browser I might use, and having no way to import them into Opera is an automatic hard fail. (Opera seems to assume its audience has a small set of sites it always visits and and wants them front and center on the home screen. I am not part of that audience.)
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Dennis