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Old 02-28-2020, 04:33 PM   #33451
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I am giving myself a pat on my back - I have often been told when doing organisation change assignments how good I am at flushing the idiots out into view (and in that environment means, for them, onto the redundancy list or demotion to the mail room).
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Old 02-28-2020, 04:37 PM   #33452
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Fear not we have our own "Starbucks" - Gloria Jean's (arguably worse) and Michel's (probably a tad better). Michel's may have opened in UK, when I was there a couple of years ago I saw establishments with the same livery - but a different name

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Starbucks doesn't seem to have taken off much over here apart from in Auckland where there is a fair bunch of them. Wellington has only one (and another in a satellite city in a mall), and in Christchurch there is only one (again in a mall).

I can't comment on Christchurch as I haven't been to the CBD there since the earthquake but I suspect in Wellington there is too much competition from the existing number of quite good independent cafes. Long may it stay that way.
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Old 02-28-2020, 06:07 PM   #33453
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Old 02-28-2020, 07:05 PM   #33454
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I've won prizes for mocking blowhards.
Yes they do seem to be a bunch of, using your word, "blowhards" . Even stranger is they seem to want to discredit, by means of shallow scoffing rather than facts, everyone who does find the solutions offered interesting or who already uses them.

They seem to be showing a dislike of people who have experience in a relevant industry (marine in my case) and then use that experience to back their suggestions up with explanation, whereas the "blowhards" (again using your word) offer no such experience themselves.

Intriguingly they also seem to have some grouch against the marine industry, perhaps just yachts in particular; yet I would be surprised if any of them have had any involvement or even exposure to it else they would have backed me up. Oh my , I see that you are one of those making a snide reference to yachts , I should have seen that. I hope that you can explain that away in more than one sentence else you should be demoted to the mail room or placed on the redundancy list with the others.
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Old 02-28-2020, 07:22 PM   #33455
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Yes they do seem to be a bunch of, using your word, "blowhards" . Even stranger is they seem to want to discredit, by means of shallow scoffing rather than facts, everyone who does find the solutions offered interesting or who already uses them.

They seem to be showing a dislike of people who have experience in a relevant industry (marine in my case) and then use that experience to back their suggestions up with explanation, whereas the "blowhards" (again using your word) offer no such experience themselves.

Intriguingly they also seem to have some grouch against the marine industry, perhaps just yachts in particular; yet I would be surprised if any of them have had any involvement or even exposure to it else they would have backed me up. Oh my , I see that you are one of those making a snide reference to yachts , I should have seen that. I hope that you can explain that away in more than one sentence else you should be demoted to the mail room or placed on the redundancy list with the others.
Actually, FWIW, I grew up on boats.

Both sets of my grandparents were boating folk; my one grandfather preferred power; the other sail. I could take care of teak decks almost before I could ride a bicycle and I grew to loathe cleaning brass at the same time. I probably have grooves in my skin to this day from wearing life preservers in my toddler years and I could say "regatta" before I could walk. I lived shipboard every summer, well into my early teen years.

I'm well aware of using Oxalic acid--which is WHY I like Barkeeper's Friend over Comet, et al. I just don't bloody well care that it's a few pennies more than making it myself--which, I think, is what I said.

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Yes they do seem to be a bunch of, using your word, "blowhards" . Even stranger is they seem to want to discredit, by means of shallow scoffing rather than facts, everyone who does find the solutions offered interesting or who already uses them.

They seem to be showing a dislike of people who have experience in a relevant industry (marine in my case) and then use that experience to back their suggestions up with explanation, whereas the "blowhards" (again using your word) offer no such experience themselves.

Intriguingly they also seem to have some grouch against the marine industry, perhaps just yachts in particular; yet I would be surprised if any of them have had any involvement or even exposure to it else they would have backed me up. Oh my , I see that you are one of those making a snide reference to yachts , I should have seen that. I hope that you can explain that away in more than one sentence else you should be demoted to the mail room or placed on the redundancy list with the others.
tldr.
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Old 02-28-2020, 08:43 PM   #33457
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Actually, FWIW, I grew up on boats.
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That's great news, which I believe I have seen you mention once before elsewhere in these forums. But I am surprised if that in that environment you did not gain (or have perhaps since lost) a tolerance for people offering solutions based on experience of what is widely used in that industry (both pleasure and commercial) - even if they are solutions based on pennies rather than tens of dollars.

And any loss of strength of independence giving resilience to the views of others which they self determine as being a challenge to their own rather than as being an alternative would be a bit surprising. Unusual to find such in the pleasure boating community - even the often terse pleasure boating forums, and marina discussions are otherwise swimming with sharing of information and ideas backed up with described experience and humor without others revealing their lack of experience by scoffing or feeling threatened. I know that also applies in the US but I won't expand on that unless asked, someone is sure to take offence or start throwing terms around such as "blowhard".

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tldr.
There we have it - a forumite in the MobileRead book reading related forums, who if they meant what they posted, doesn't have the attention span to even read a couple of paragraphs.

Perhaps, instead of "too long, didn't read", you meant "not interested" in which case one has to wonder why you felt inclined to post?
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:40 PM   #33459
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So because some of us would prefer to spend $5 or less for a container of a ready-made cleaning product that will last a couple of years we are idiots?
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Old 02-28-2020, 10:54 PM   #33460
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I'm confused about the point where this became less about ranting and more about flaming about cleaning chemicals of all things
But carry on, I've just readied another batch of popcorn!
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:03 PM   #33461
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Back to your regularly scheduled ranting... someone just up and stopped showing up at work.

And that's how a pay period with 22.5 hours scheduled and 3 days off becomes 35 hours and one day off.
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:13 PM   #33462
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So because some of us would prefer to spend $5 or less for a container of a ready-made cleaning product that will last a couple of years we are idiots?
No nothing at all about that, people can pay what they like for cleaners it is of no concern to me if they are not interested in alternatives. I am only interested in mentioning alternatives for others to consider should they wish.

The ones who seem to want to make idiots of themselves enter at around post 33438. Which I see does include you, despite the fact that only yesterday I gave you GPS feedback and a suggestion you seemed to appreciate to try - I indeed wonder...
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I'm confused about the point where this became less about ranting and more about flaming about cleaning chemicals of all things
But carry on, I've just readied another batch of popcorn!
Yes, my own popcorn stock is getting a battering too . Care to share your batch .
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:47 PM   #33464
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So because some of us would prefer to spend $5 or less for a container of a ready-made cleaning product that will last a couple of years we are idiots?
With luck the container, which may well account for most of the $5, should last for a couple of millennia.

I did a work experience stint at a UK Defence Lab in the '60's, where I found a hand written recipe book for a variety of cure/fix-alls; so I've been cooking up concoctions since long before we even knew there was a climate, let alone a big whirlypool thingmy in the North Pacific.

I thought mocking was what bottle blond headed politicians did. Oh, wait, fresh tweet hot off the ether - what they actually do is their WAGs smocking -- silly me. Thanks Dom.

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I am only interested in mentioning alternatives for others to consider should they wish.
And of course you don't believe the way you went about "mentioning alternatives" was at all condescending or snotty, right? Because 3 or 4 otherwise largely disconnected individuals who took it that way couldn't possibly be wrong. Get over yourself.

Condescending, snotty blowhards are what I have to vent about today.
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