Sony Reader outside US - Page 22

HarryT · 10-19-2007, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickPin

Now, I've heard, but never done this myself.... that if the seller declares it as a gift, no value quoted, chances are it will get past customs and none of the above will be charged.... But that's just a rumor and I would certainly not recommend it.....

Good. This is tax evasion, which is a criminal offence. Any seller who misdeclares the value of goods is also laying themselves open to criminal prosecution.

Patient · 10-19-2007, 11:16 AM

Has anyone outside the US been able to get the 100 free books?

HarryT · 10-19-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patient

Has anyone outside the US been able to get the 100 free books?

Yes, absolutely no problem at all. That's with the old offer, but I'm sure the new one works in the same way. In order to get the free books, all you have to do is register your Reader - you don't need to enter credit card details. Simply check the "I live in the USA" box when it asks you.

nitrous · 10-21-2007, 11:44 PM

Gee Harry, that would be fraud but who's counting

Seriously, I think I've discovered an interesting effect with the software outside of the US. I live in Canada, purchased the PRS-500 when in Las Vegas a few weeks back as a gift for my wife. Except for the problem of my VISA card not having a US billing address, I was able to logon, create an account and was looking forward to getting my free 100 books while I waited until I was back in the USSR errr, USA to get a gift certificate at Borders etc. Well, my ver 1.1 Connect software was asking to update to V 2.0 so.... I did and low and behold, I could no longer access my account. It complained that I didn't have an internet connect (although I clearly did). By this time, I had a friend install Connect on his computer in Boston and send a gift certificate my way. Fortunately, by uninstalling the v2.0 and reinstalling the v 1.1, I'm back in business and can assure all who are interested that you can insert the Gift Certificate codes into the system and purchase against that credit. Furthermore, since I've authorized my reader within the alloted timeframe, I get the 100 free classics too.

If anyone can confirm that the Version 2.x software checks domains to ensure that the computer is in the US, I'd appreciate it. I just don't have the desire to upgrade, now that I've fully authorized my system. With my luck, I'd screw it up and would prefer to be a US resident to try and sort that out on the telephone rather than try to socially engineer my way back to life with a screwed up authorization on the software and hardware!

Great piece of equipment though. Wish I'd known about the 505 though. I might have grabbed it instead of the 500 from Costco like I did. Too bad it's not available in Canada yet. Between this and my Zune, I have two neat pieces of hardware that few in Canada have!

Happy reading guys.
Doug

heb · 10-23-2007, 07:38 AM

Has anyone ordered from the Datavision store as they do seem to have both models in stock.

If so what was your experience like and how long did it take for delivery?

Thanks,

Richard.

maxk · 10-23-2007, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heb

Has anyone ordered from the Datavision store as they do seem to have both models in stock.

If so what was your experience like and how long did it take for delivery?

Thanks,

Richard.

Either their shopping cart was broken at the time I tried to order (Oct 16) or they have no shipping options outside of USA even though you can enter any other country during your account creation.

They didn't bother to reply to my email querying them about it so they probably don't ship overseas.

heb · 10-23-2007, 07:46 AM

Doh!

Thanks for the info though

I am tempted to buy one from EBay but with shipping it would be over $400 which seems like a huge premium to pay compared to a proper store.

Thanks,

Richard.

astra · 10-23-2007, 08:05 AM

Yeah ebay doesn't sound like a reliable source.

If I were you, I would wait for a month or so, maybe bhphotovideo is going sell them. Though who knows, maybe they encountered too many problems with prs 500 and will not want to bother this time.

JSWolf · 10-23-2007, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heb

Doh!

Thanks for the info though

I am tempted to buy one from EBay but with shipping it would be over $400 which seems like a huge premium to pay compared to a proper store.

Thanks,

Richard.

I have an offer in the flea market section of the forum to allow you to purchase a 505 for less then the cost you'd pay going via ebay. Do you really want to get one for less then ebay? Then head over to the flea market.

heb · 10-23-2007, 10:35 AM

Hi JSWolf, thanks for the offer, but I would rather purchase direct from a store if possible.

I have sent an email to Adorama asking when they expect the reader to be in stock. If it's not soon then maybe the Cybook will actually launch on time!

Dave Berk · 10-23-2007, 02:48 PM

B&H now show the reader as "new coming soon" in
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...STEM_BLUE.html
But their price is around 70$ higher than adorama.

gingercat · 10-24-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickPin

You can read my long winded post or just go to:
http://pages.ebay.ca/help/sellerguid...importing.html

;-)

two weeks ago I bought a PRS-500 on ebay for $250US. for Canadians this is a great time to buy anything from the States due to the currency parity.

The "textbook" version is that you will have to:

Pay duties based on the value of the goods in Canadian funds.
Get the Canadian amount of the $250USX103=257 (the American dollar is at 0.97cent Canadian).
Multiply by the rate of duty, approx 4%, 257X0.04=$10.28
pay Goods and Services Tax (GST),~6%
pay Provincial Sales Tax (PST), ~7% or its equivalent depending on what Province you live in.

"By the book" you would pay
$10.28 duty
$18.90 GST
$16.20 PST
$45.38 total.

Now, I've heard, but never done this myself.... that if the seller declares it as a gift, no value quoted, chances are it will get past customs and none of the above will be charged.... But that's just a rumor and I would certainly not recommend it.....

Also, if you can wait, get the seller to ship via USPS instead of UPS or what have you. the shipping cost me $13! That's all! OK, it took 10 long days to get here, but....

Patrick

Don't you get any expemtions. Our Customs wont charge you unless the total charge comes to more than $50 - In practise this means as long as the goods are below $NZ700 you don't have to pay anything to import. I did get cuaght with $100 tax when I recently bought an iRex tho. Luckily I was able to purchase thru my business and claim the GST back.

JSWolf · 10-25-2007, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple dave

B&H now show the reader as "new coming soon" in
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...STEM_BLUE.html
But their price is around 70$ higher than adorama.

Why is B&H charging more then the actual cost of the 505?

Dave Berk · 10-25-2007, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Why is B&H charging more then the actual cost of the 505?

I have no idea. Maybe their price will come down when they will get the actual device and their price now is only an approximation...

mcramer · 10-25-2007, 04:51 AM

gingercat - i think nz's pretty understanding on bringing things back home. i've bought stuff worth about 1200 and they haven't bothered getting any money off me. i think they only charge gst on the difference between 700 and the value of the goods. if that's not more than 50 bucks they don't worry....... maybe not the rules but certainly in my experience

10-19-2007, 11:16 AM	#317
Patient Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: PRS-505	Free book offer Has anyone outside the US been able to get the 100 free books?

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10-21-2007, 11:44 PM	#319
nitrous Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Sony eReader 500	Gee Harry, that would be fraud but who's counting Seriously, I think I've discovered an interesting effect with the software outside of the US. I live in Canada, purchased the PRS-500 when in Las Vegas a few weeks back as a gift for my wife. Except for the problem of my VISA card not having a US billing address, I was able to logon, create an account and was looking forward to getting my free 100 books while I waited until I was back in the USSR errr, USA to get a gift certificate at Borders etc. Well, my ver 1.1 Connect software was asking to update to V 2.0 so.... I did and low and behold, I could no longer access my account. It complained that I didn't have an internet connect (although I clearly did). By this time, I had a friend install Connect on his computer in Boston and send a gift certificate my way. Fortunately, by uninstalling the v2.0 and reinstalling the v 1.1, I'm back in business and can assure all who are interested that you can insert the Gift Certificate codes into the system and purchase against that credit. Furthermore, since I've authorized my reader within the alloted timeframe, I get the 100 free classics too. If anyone can confirm that the Version 2.x software checks domains to ensure that the computer is in the US, I'd appreciate it. I just don't have the desire to upgrade, now that I've fully authorized my system. With my luck, I'd screw it up and would prefer to be a US resident to try and sort that out on the telephone rather than try to socially engineer my way back to life with a screwed up authorization on the software and hardware! Great piece of equipment though. Wish I'd known about the 505 though. I might have grabbed it instead of the 500 from Costco like I did. Too bad it's not available in Canada yet. Between this and my Zune, I have two neat pieces of hardware that few in Canada have! Happy reading guys. Doug

10-23-2007, 07:38 AM	#320
heb Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: none yet	Has anyone ordered from the Datavision store as they do seem to have both models in stock. If so what was your experience like and how long did it take for delivery? Thanks, Richard.

10-23-2007, 07:46 AM	#322
heb Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: none yet	Doh! Thanks for the info though I am tempted to buy one from EBay but with shipping it would be over $400 which seems like a huge premium to pay compared to a proper store. Thanks, Richard.

10-23-2007, 08:05 AM	#323
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	Yeah ebay doesn't sound like a reliable source. If I were you, I would wait for a month or so, maybe bhphotovideo is going sell them. Though who knows, maybe they encountered too many problems with prs 500 and will not want to bother this time.

10-23-2007, 10:35 AM	#325
heb Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: none yet	Hi JSWolf, thanks for the offer, but I would rather purchase direct from a store if possible. I have sent an email to Adorama asking when they expect the reader to be in stock. If it's not soon then maybe the Cybook will actually launch on time!

10-23-2007, 02:48 PM	#326
Dave Berk Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 138556 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PRS505	B&H now show the reader as "new coming soon" in http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...STEM_BLUE.html But their price is around 70$ higher than adorama.

10-25-2007, 04:51 AM	#330
mcramer Kiwi reader Posts: 107 Karma: 349 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Device: iPad, iPhone	gingercat - i think nz's pretty understanding on bringing things back home. i've bought stuff worth about 1200 and they haven't bothered getting any money off me. i think they only charge gst on the difference between 700 and the value of the goods. if that's not more than 50 bucks they don't worry....... maybe not the rules but certainly in my experience

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