Kindle Scribe

[vostro]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Which firmware? Same refresh settings?

all is latest firmware, same refresh setting.

Originally Posted by Quoth

Reading regular ebooks, or PDFs or scribbling?

regular ebooks and PDF, rarely use scribbling.

Originally Posted by Quoth

That sounds unlikely about battery life unless Scribe has a much larger battery or much slower CPU.

can't find battery and cpu details.

Originally Posted by Quoth

The Scribe's EMR Wacom is powered from the Scribe. The Elipsa stylus/pen uses an AAAA cell and I've not had to replace it.

got 64G version which comes with premium version of pen, can't find if it's battery powered.

Originally Posted by Quoth

Elipsa seems better battery life than the Sage, which while poorer than Libra or PW3 is OK.

I'd be surprised if any much difference in screen. You have to set Original Aura HD H2O, PW3, PW4, Libra, Sage. Oasis , Mars 7.8" and Elipsa side by side in ambient light only to see that:
H2O is best. Likely because no capacitive touch, despite lower resolution.
PW4 slightly the worst.
Not much difference between the rest.

yes H2O got best contrast ratio, no doubt. voyage is second but screen tint is not ideal with mixed quality(i have two voyage but they got different tint). one of two PW3 that i have got better contrast ratio than Scribe.

Originally Posted by Quoth

You'd only notice poorer resolution on original H2O & Elipsa on small print or fonts not designed for lower resolution PC/Laptops. Georgia and similar originally MS fonts were for less than 120 dpi. The old ereaders and up to prior Basic are 150 or 167 dpi except for 5" models, and most 10" approx are 227, only Scribe is 300 dpi above 8" size eink.

resolution impact is not big issue for me.

Originally Posted by Quoth

There does seem to be slight manufacturer variation in screen contrast without front light.

two PW3 i have shows noticeable screen contrast difference with screen backlight.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by vostro

got 64G version which comes with premium version of pen, can't find if it's battery powered.
…
two PW3 i have shows noticeable screen contrast difference with front light.

There are two main kinds of Wacom pens, the original and the EMR. Both have electronics powered by the host digitiser system, either a plain tablet with no display or under the display. The Scribe uses the Wacom EMR, same as reMarkable, some Lenovo Laptops and some LCD/OLED tablets.
The Samsung S pens may be inductively charged, but I'm not sure. They don't take a battery.
Apple Pencil and MS Surface are incompatible and use batteries. Some MS Pens are rechargeable and some have BT also for One Note. The basic MS two button pen with no "One Note" BT seems identical to the Kobo Pen. I have the Kobo Pen and the cheap MS Surface compatible "Adrawpen" and no difference in use / performance. Cosmetically similar. The AAAA cell might last the quoted 6 months as I've not had to replace a cell (about 20c).

There may be other systems. Most, including both main kinds of Wacom (and pen on Kindle Scribe) are pressure sensitive but most applications use a threshold on pressure to turn on/off the digital ink, so will only reveal pressure with a suitable drawing app that can map pressure to density, or width or unlike the real world to hue. On Mac/PC/Linux you can use pressure to simulate quill, crayon, pencil, chalk, charcoal or pencil. Most Wacom don't do angle, but some other digitiser/stylus combos do, such as Apple Pencil, which can sort of simulate calligraphy.


Front light settings and the light pipe for a front light vary hugely even on the same model. I rely on a desk lamp, room lamp or daylight unless the available light is too poor when away from home.

[Dan23]

For those wondering, per whatismyresolution.com, resolution is 1860x2480.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Dan23

For those wondering, per whatismyresolution.com, resolution is 1860x2480.

Then it's diagonal is over 10.3 inches and amazon says 10.2 inches.

A Scribe owner should post a screenshot.

[Dan23]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

A Scribe owner should post a screenshot.

If a screenshot is needed, here you go:

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Dan23

If a screenshot is needed, here you go:

That is not a screenshot. It is a photograph.

Kindles generally take a screenshot (framebuffer grab) by tapping diagonal corners of the screen at the same time. The screenshot is stored on the kindle and can be copied to a computer over USB.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Dan23

For those wondering, per whatismyresolution.com, resolution is 1860x2480.

That site simply takes Browser info. Ignore it.
My screen is really 3840 x 2160 and 23" and 16 x 9. HMDI reports it as 27". The whatismyresolution.com site reports it as 3520 x 1980.

Also

Note: on mobile devices the resolution info here won't always be correct.

It's not a database of info from the manufacturers.
It does oddly have a link to more accurate Browser report

JavaScript screen.width x screen.height = 3520 x 1980
window.devicePixelRatio = 1.0909091234207153 device pixels per CSS pixel
True screen.width x screen.height = 3840 x 2160

JavaScript window.innerWidth x window.innerHeight = 1364 x 1484
window.devicePixelRatio = 1.0909091234207153 device pixels per CSS pixel
True window.innerWidth x window.innerHeight = 1488 x 1619

But you (or your device) can make your Browser report ficticious figures.

Edit see:
http://dev.jeffersonscher.com/resolution.html

I have user settings in Browser to scale websites as my screen isn't HiDPI but is certainly higher DPI than 96 (what Web assumes). I have my Linux desktop set to 136 dpi, which isn't real either, but suits the Mate Desktop and main programs. Windows used to be able to scale up or down. Now it can only enlarge desktop items (set higher DPI than really exists). On screens with poor max X or Y pixels I might set Desktop DPI as low as 60 so that Windows assuming a minimum 768 height work on a 600 pixel high screen (which might be 7" or 14" physically).

[Dan23]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

That is not a screenshot. It is a photograph.

Got ya. Just took screenshot with corners. Properties->Details shows 1860x2480. Attached.

[shamanNS]

1860 x 2480 is also the resolution of all built-in sceensaver images inside the firmware binary from Amazon's page.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Dan23

Got ya. Just took screenshot with corners. Properties->Details shows 1860x2480. Attached.

Originally Posted by shamanNS

1860 x 2480 is also the resolution of all built-in sceensaver images inside the firmware binary from Amazon's page.

Thanks.

So the Scribe screen is 10.3 inches or is a bit under 304 DPI.

[WillAdams]

Created an initial page on the wiki:

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_Scribe

The big thing I'm curious about is what is the difference between "PDF (adjustable layout) and "PDF original layout" on the link from the page:

https://www.amazon.com/sendtokindle

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by WillAdams

The big thing I'm curious about is what is the difference between "PDF (adjustable layout) and "PDF original layout" on the link from the page:

https://www.amazon.com/sendtokindle

I believe that adjustable layout is the same thing you get if you email a PDF with “convert” as the subject. It tries to convert it to a reflowable Kindle format. Results will vary greatly depending on how the PDF was produced originally.

[jhowell]

I am curious whether anyone with a Scribe has tried reading print replica books that are normally disallowed on e-ink Kindle devices. There was some speculation that these books were restricted due to the small screen size of Kindles and that Amazon might allow them to be read on a Scribe.

I took a look at a textbook published last year and it still shows "This title is not supported on Kindle E-readers" in the description. I obtained the free sample and Download and Transfer to any of my e-ink Kindles is not allowed. (Who Am I in the Lives of Children? )

I also tried a borrowed print replica book available from Kindle Unlimited and was also unable to send it to a Kindle. (Finding the Named Stars)

I suspect that those books will also not work on a Scribe but it would be nice to have confirmation from a Scribe owner.

[nprentiss]

I can confirm that print replica books don't work on the Scribe.

Originally Posted by jhowell

I am curious whether anyone with a Scribe has tried reading print replica books that are normally disallowed on e-ink Kindle devices. There was some speculation that these books were restricted due to the small screen size of Kindles and that Amazon might allow them to be read on a Scribe.

I took a look at a textbook published last year and it still shows "This title is not supported on Kindle E-readers" in the description. I obtained the free sample and Download and Transfer to any of my e-ink Kindles is not allowed. (Who Am I in the Lives of Children? )

I also tried a borrowed print replica book available from Kindle Unlimited and was also unable to send it to a Kindle. (Finding the Named Stars)

I suspect that those books will also not work on a Scribe but it would be nice to have confirmation from a Scribe owner.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by nprentiss

I can confirm that print replica books don't work on the Scribe.

I had assumed that was the case, but wonder if it's even on their roadmap. It seems like a natural fit to me. We'll have to wait and see.

For full parity, it would also need to support Flashcards, which is a feature of the Kindle apps but not of Kindle devices. This lets you assemble key points of a book for later review (I have yet to use this feature myself).