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Old 04-01-2015, 12:17 PM   #316
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So how do we convince ebook vendors and publishers to give up DRM? I asked this question in this thread, and it seems vendors and publishers have little incentive to do so.
The problem here is NOT an issue of DRM. Tor sells eBooks without DRM. The issues is Kobo treating all ePub 3 eBooks as kepub and not allow us to download them as standard ePub instead of only kepub. Because a number of publishers are publishing needlessly (IMHO) in ePub 3, Kobo see those as fit only for Access (the ePub 3 reading software on Kobo Readers) and not fit for RMDSK (ADE core software) even though these ePub 3 will work with RMDSK no problem.

This is a vendor (Kobo) issue and it has nothing to do with DRM. If every publisher who now released ePub in ePub 3 were to go DRM free, you'd still only be able to download their eBooks (from Kobo) as kepub.
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Old 04-02-2015, 06:24 AM   #317
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The problem here is NOT an issue of DRM. Tor sells eBooks without DRM. The issues is Kobo treating all ePub 3 eBooks as kepub and not allow us to download them as standard ePub instead of only kepub. Because a number of publishers are publishing needlessly (IMHO) in ePub 3, Kobo see those as fit only for Access (the ePub 3 reading software on Kobo Readers) and not fit for RMDSK (ADE core software) even though these ePub 3 will work with RMDSK no problem.

This is a vendor (Kobo) issue and it has nothing to do with DRM. If every publisher who now released ePub in ePub 3 were to go DRM free, you'd still only be able to download their eBooks (from Kobo) as kepub.
And of course, that is a bug in Kobo software that Kobo have acknowledged. They are in the process of fixing it. They haven't given a time line for the fix, but that is what I would expect.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:29 AM   #318
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I recently bought Full Fathom Five which is a Tor book, and so DRM-free.

In my library it's labeled as "Download options: EPUB (DRM-Free)" and there's a "DOWNLOAD EPUB" button.

But clicking on the button I get an error message:
I now get the book downloaded correctly. Perhaps Kobo are fixing things - one book at a time .
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:36 AM   #319
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I now get the book downloaded correctly. Perhaps Kobo are fixing things - one book at a time .
Many of the DRM-Free EPUB3 books I mentioned in this thread are now available for direct download. Whoohoo! Hope it sticks.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:46 AM   #320
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I now get the book downloaded correctly. Perhaps Kobo are fixing things - one book at a time .
The two DRM free epub3 books I have both downloaded fine just now. Hopefully that means that they have fixed whatever was in their backend systems that was broken.
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Yes, I noticed that the Some of the Best from Tor.com download was now fixed for me, which it wasn't 2 weeks ago when I last bought anything from kobo.
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:28 PM   #322
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I can download my Tor books now as well, but two of them are no longer available. Can anyone see The Fierce Reads Anthology books in the store?

Edit: I was able to download and they are still in my library.
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:22 AM   #323
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Still no download button for me on Unlocked by John Scalzi.
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:24 AM   #324
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Still no download button for me on Unlocked by John Scalzi.
That is soooooo ironic.
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:30 AM   #325
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I now get the book downloaded correctly. Perhaps Kobo are fixing things - one book at a time .
The Tor free eBook that I have in my library that used to go OOPS! Now allows me to download it as an ePub 3 eBook instead of a kepub.
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:11 AM   #326
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That is soooooo ironic.
Ha! I hadn't thought about that. Very true!
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:47 AM   #327
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I just grabbed a free ePub 3 eBook that is not any of the ones mentioned in this thread and is not from Tor and it downloads just fine. Samples still do not have a download link.

https://store.kobobooks.com/en-us/bo...w&PageNumber=1
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:03 PM   #328
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Samples still do not have a download link.
That's not something I'd expect to see change. Samples are a bonus--free-of-charge--service that people can use or not. If they want to require people to utilize one of their devices, apps, or a browser to make use of their free samples, more power to them.
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Still no download button for me on Unlocked by John Scalzi.
Strangely, I'm now able to download my ePub3 copy of Lock In.
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I just grabbed a free ePub 3 eBook that is not any of the ones mentioned in this thread and is not from Tor and it downloads just fine. Samples still do not have a download link.

https://store.kobobooks.com/en-us/bo...w&PageNumber=1
Thanks. I can now try to download this one...
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