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Old Today, 05:18 AM   #3211
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But what is this "KFX v10+" DRM they wrote about? Could it be the super-strong DRM applied to textbooks and Indian eBooks?
I believe this is just the newer KFX. The type noDRM's DeDRM cannot handle. The books that have the "super-strong" DRM no longer download to Kindle for PC at all. When they still did, Satsuoni's DeDRM worked on them.

eta: on second thought this is probably refering to the kfx noDRM's DeDRM 10.0.9 can handle but 10.0.3 cannot.
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By the way, someone in the Japanese Kindle community noticed that at the same time as the recent Amazon Fall Hardware Event 2025, the Kindle Cloud Reader (a.k.a. Kindle for Web) was upgraded, making it possible to read reflowable Kindle eBooks that were previously unavailable in Japan.

The fact that they upgraded Kindle for Web suggests that Kindle for PC might be discontinued.
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By the way, someone in the Japanese Kindle community noticed that at the same time as the recent Amazon Fall Hardware Event 2025, the Kindle Cloud Reader (a.k.a. Kindle for Web) was upgraded, making it possible to read reflowable Kindle eBooks that were previously unavailable in Japan.

The fact that they upgraded Kindle for Web suggests that Kindle for PC might be discontinued.
One thing K4PC does that Kindle Web does not and that is to allow you to read eBooks without Internet access.
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By the way, someone in the Japanese Kindle community noticed that at the same time as the recent Amazon Fall Hardware Event 2025, the Kindle Cloud Reader (a.k.a. Kindle for Web) was upgraded, making it possible to read reflowable Kindle eBooks that were previously unavailable in Japan.

The fact that they upgraded Kindle for Web suggests that Kindle for PC might be discontinued.

They released a new macOS version a few months ago. This seems like a waste if they plan to discontinue the apps.
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Safely Decrypt Kindle eBooks: Why BookFab Kindle Converter Leads the Way [2025 Update]

I found this new blog post by DVDFab. Maybe they're also watching MR and read what we wrote. DVDFab's conversion process recently got an upgrade, so it's possible it can now be handled completely locally.
But what is this "KFX v10+" DRM they wrote about? Could it be the super-strong DRM applied to textbooks and Indian eBooks?
I have read it and now I am very confused... Are there really that many Kindle converters that work from the browser? The only one I was aware of that had something like browser was previous version of Bookfab itself... Epubor, using methods from DeDRM would not need any access to Amazon servers... There are some python scripts on github that do create a "virtual" android device, but they are command-line and hardly "one-click".

In fact, theirs is the only tool that, to my knowledge, actively spoofed various settings, rather than following the verbatim protocol copied from one device or another. I *think* they accessed some API that gave out secrets for a particular device number, but I am not sure, ironically, since they use DRM... well, DRM-adjacent blight to obfuscate their executables.

Also, they mention that books with "hard encryption" (that was supported from 10.0.9, thank you very much) can no longer be downloaded with K4PC, and that is true, but they provide no alternative, since method that relies on downloading with K4PC obviously does not work...

The auto-scan method appears to be, well, something like hardcoded path scan? Or scanning the path that was lifted from kindle settings. That is... hardly groundbreaking tech.

Next, KFX V10... I have little clue. Maybe they refer to voucher version? Somehow? I think there is V11, and everything after is a set of random 4-numbers, like V9201 or something. Once again, they were supported, until Amazon added more, and more still. I think there might be over 50 now. A separate set for each platform. (maybe not, I did not count).

All, in all, article reads... odd to me. A bit like my school essays, all style, lots of words, little substance. Is it AI? Market-speak? Translation? I cannot tell.

All that said, BookFab does seem to provide, at least, convenience, and they are likely to keep updating it, so if somebody thinks that is a good value for money, by all means? I know my new tools are cumbersome, and may not be updated if I lose interest. It is, however, possible to use the source for my tool, dedrm and other plugins to make a single-click script that converts the whole kindle library to epubs Lots of work though.
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It is, however, possible to use the source for my tool, dedrm and other plugins to make a single-click script that converts the whole kindle library to epubs Lots of work though.
Interestingly, there's already a company that has done this; they call themselves Epubor, and their app is called Epubor Ultimate.
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Interestingly, there's already a company that has done this; they call themselves Epubor, and their app is called Epubor Ultimate.
Fair enough... The latest BookFab for Kindle also borrows from my tool, apparently.
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which device of the Kindle (do the old devices still work?) do you guys recommend i buy? i'm planning on buying a used one.
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Recommend not buying a Kindle at all. Probably not a helpful answer for you.
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Recommend not buying a Kindle at all. Probably not a helpful answer for you.
all the ebooks i'm interested in are on Amazon.
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which device of the Kindle (do the old devices still work?) do you guys recommend i buy? i'm planning on buying a used one.
i think the paperwhite 1 was a popular choice of a device that still receives books as azw3, so easier to remove drm and books are in color
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which device of the Kindle (do the old devices still work?) do you guys recommend i buy? i'm planning on buying a used one.
PW1 if it's to buy Amazon Kindle ebooks, otherwise Kobo, Pocketbook or Onyx.
The issue with older Kindles is that they'll new batteries and can be hard to register. Absolutely not a K1, K2 or any kind of DX or DXG.
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all the ebooks i'm interested in are on Amazon.
Are they available elsewhere or just Amazon?
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i think the paperwhite 1 was a popular choice of a device that still receives books as azw3, so easier to remove drm and books are in color
The Kindle Thouch is a more popular choice as it will be cheaper and you'll download KF8 or Mobi and not KFX.
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Are they available elsewhere or just Amazon?
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