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SneakySnake · 08-18-2011, 01:14 AM

That looks beautiful! The ground and the sky look real. Are you sure you didn't sneak up to the boat, paint it and take another photo?

If I had the technology, perhaps I wouldn't virtually paint the boat as you have done. Be sure I won't use that beautiful photo in any ad, but maybe I could show it to a buyer as to what it would look like if stitchy did actually turn up here with a paintbrush.

Thanks for the second touch up. That is indeed useable in an ad. The original I took from the advertisment placed by the dealer on the internet. You would think he would be able to do that, but he wants it actually painted to make it easier for him to sell.

Stitchawl · 08-18-2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SneakySnake

That looks beautiful! The ground and the sky look real. Are you sure you didn't sneak up to the boat, paint it and take another photo?

If I had the technology, perhaps I wouldn't virtually paint the boat as you have done. Be sure I won't use that beautiful photo in any ad, but maybe I could show it to a buyer as to what it would look like if stitchy did actually turn up here with a paintbrush.

You wouldn't want to use that first photo in an advert but there is absolutely no reason not to use the second one. In the first I 'painted' the boat, cleaned the fenders, etc., etc. using Photoshop.

But in the second one, absolutely NOTHING was done to the boat at all, only to the boatyard behind it. This is the effect of using a smaller F/stop on a camera lens to reduce the depth of field in the image when taking the photo, allowing the viewer to concentrate on the subject rather than having it cluttered up with background. No trickery at all, just done after the shot was taken rather than at the same time.

Stitchawl

Stitchawl · 08-18-2011, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SneakySnake

That is indeed useable in an ad. The original I took from the advertisment placed by the dealer on the internet. You would think he would be able to do that, but he wants it actually painted to make it easier for him to sell.

If the dealer was the one who took the original photo, I'd find another dealer... That photo looks as if it was shot with a cell phone, and never should have been used for advertising...

Anyone with an ordinary SLR camera can take the photo using an aperture of F/2.8 or F/3.5 and get the very same results I created with the computer... It ain't rocket science.

Stitchawl

SneakySnake · 08-18-2011, 01:33 AM

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If the dealer was the one who took the original photo, I'd find another dealer... That photo looks as if it was shot with a cell phone, and never should have been used for advertising...

Anyone with an ordinary SLR camera can take the photo using an aperture of F/2.8 or F/3.5 and get the very same results I created with the computer... It ain't rocket science.

Stitchawl

Unfortunately where the boat is located restricts us a bit. He has had it listed for a few months now (Salty died in March). We have spoken to a dealer near where we live, but the cost of keeping it closer will be a lot higher than where it is now. That being said, if we brought it down here, more people would be able to see it and maybe easier to sell. Hard to say.
Anyone want a sailboat? You can see how nice it would look when stichy paints it for you!

orlok · 08-18-2011, 05:28 AM

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The girl's image was corrected using PhotoShop.

I use Photoshop Elements, so presumably I could spend a bit of time getting to know it beyond brushing up images of toys for my wife's website, and try using it on pictures of friends and family, and maybe get some of the type of results you are demonstrating...?

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Anyone want a sailboat? You can see how nice it would look when stichy paints it for you!

Would love one, but in the land-locked Midlands it would not go much farther than my drive-way, I suspect. Would be fun sailing it back home from Oz, though

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FlorenceArt · 08-18-2011, 05:38 AM

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Would love one, but in the land-locked Midlands it would not go much farther than my drive-way, I suspect. Would be fun sailing it back home from Oz, though

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But you'd have to paint it first!

Stitchawl · 08-18-2011, 05:42 AM

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I use Photoshop Elements, so presumably I could spend a bit of time getting to know it beyond brushing up images of toys for my wife's website, and try using it on pictures of friends and family, and maybe get some of the type of results you are demonstrating...?

There really is a big difference between 'Elements' and the full program, but probably you really don't need all the bells and whistles...

Find some instructional books by Scott Kelby, specifically something that deals with what is called 'Post processing work flow.' This will give you a very simple step-by-step correction process, usually no more than 4-5 steps, to turn the average image into a very good image. (This is NOT removing blemishes, increasing bust lines, or thinning waistlines.) It's how to increase the overall look of the image as the camera 'should' have given but didn't, as in; changing contrast, improving light balance, improving color saturation, removing color casts, and sharpening the image.

Kelby also has some instructional material called "Killer Tips and Tricks." This is where he shows, again step-by-step, how to remove those blemishes, thin thunderthighs, smooth out wrinkles, etc. and a host of other problem solving tools.

There are several very good 'teachers,' but Kelby is the easiest to follow. Deke McClellan is excellent, but a bit hard for the novice to follow, and aims more for graphic design. Kelby has stuff written just for photographers.

Stitchawl

FlorenceArt · 08-18-2011, 05:50 AM

I saw some mouth-watering videos on the new photo correction features in recent version of Photoshop. I'm using CS and it's more than enough for the little I do with it, but when I upgrade my Mac to Lion, it will stop working and I'll have to get the latest one.

By the way, I preferred the unedited version of the woman's photo myself, I hate the cyborg look of the other one. But then, I'm female.

Stitchawl · 08-18-2011, 06:08 AM

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I saw some mouth-watering videos on the new photo correction features in recent version of Photoshop. I'm using CS and it's more than enough for the little I do with it, but when I upgrade my Mac to Lion, it will stop working and I'll have to get the latest one.

It really is an amazing program.

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By the way, I preferred the unedited version of the woman's photo myself, I hate the cyborg look of the other one. But then, I'm female.

Frankly, I'm with you! You probably save a lot of money on cosmetics. But it is a $75 million dollar a year industry in just the US. Somebody likes looking like a Cyborg.

Stitchawl

orlok · 08-18-2011, 07:08 AM

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But you'd have to paint it first!

No, no. Didn't you read Sneaky's post? Stitchawl's going to do it!

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Find some instructional books by Scott Kelby, specifically something that deals with what is called 'Post processing work flow.'

Just browsing his site now, and I'm lost already...

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Stitchawl · 08-18-2011, 07:24 AM

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No, no. Didn't you read Sneaky's post? Stitchawl's going to do it!

I'm such a nice guy...

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Just browsing his site now, and I'm lost already...

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There is simply too much to Photoshop for a body to assimilate. Keep in mind that there are very different tools included in the program that the average user will NEVER use! And a completely different set of tools to be used by graphic artists rather than by photographers, and vice versa. Rather like a word processing program where you and I might only use the spell checker and adjust margins, while some executive secretary might need to make boilerplate letters and mail merge them with her information in a data base, etc., etc., etc. We simply never use 90% of what's included with these programs. If we DO need to use it, once, we can look up how to do that one specific thing, do it, then forget about it until we need it again a few years later.

As a photographer, you only really need to concern yourself with the post production work flow, which is really pretty simple, and a few key tricks to make people look better ( if that is what you are shooting. No need to smooth the wrinkles on an elephant.) These are things that you do to EVERY photograph.

Keep it simple...

Stitchawl

Iridal · 08-18-2011, 04:09 PM

Oh boy, something terrible happened at Pukkelpop (one of our major festivals). A storm passed and because of the wind a couple of buildings collapsed on the people taking shelter there ... 3 confirmed dead, at least 60 injured, the whole terrain transformed into mud, couple of stages collapsed, the festival will probably be canceled ... Some of my friends were there, luckily they're all OK. One of my sister's friend can't be reached ... Scary moments ...

orlok · 08-18-2011, 04:18 PM

That's awful, glad to hear your friends are okay.

Stitchawl · 08-18-2011, 06:21 PM

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... Scary moments ...

Amazing that Nature can give us our biggest scares... We'll keep our hopes up for your missing friend.

Stitchawl

SneakySnake · 08-18-2011, 06:58 PM

@ Stitchawl Bloke was very impressed with your clean up of the boat photo, and thanks you very much.

08-18-2011, 01:14 AM	#31771
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	That looks beautiful! The ground and the sky look real. Are you sure you didn't sneak up to the boat, paint it and take another photo? If I had the technology, perhaps I wouldn't virtually paint the boat as you have done. Be sure I won't use that beautiful photo in any ad, but maybe I could show it to a buyer as to what it would look like if stitchy did actually turn up here with a paintbrush. Thanks for the second touch up. That is indeed useable in an ad. The original I took from the advertisment placed by the dealer on the internet. You would think he would be able to do that, but he wants it actually painted to make it easier for him to sell. Last edited by SneakySnake; 08-18-2011 at 01:22 AM.

08-18-2011, 05:50 AM	#31778
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	I saw some mouth-watering videos on the new photo correction features in recent version of Photoshop. I'm using CS and it's more than enough for the little I do with it, but when I upgrade my Mac to Lion, it will stop working and I'll have to get the latest one. By the way, I preferred the unedited version of the woman's photo myself, I hate the cyborg look of the other one. But then, I'm female.

08-18-2011, 04:09 PM	#31782
Iridal Mysteriarch Posts: 1,422 Karma: 26606984 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The land of impossible deadlines Device: iPhone 4, Kindle 3	Oh boy, something terrible happened at Pukkelpop (one of our major festivals). A storm passed and because of the wind a couple of buildings collapsed on the people taking shelter there ... 3 confirmed dead, at least 60 injured, the whole terrain transformed into mud, couple of stages collapsed, the festival will probably be canceled ... Some of my friends were there, luckily they're all OK. One of my sister's friend can't be reached ... Scary moments ...

08-18-2011, 04:18 PM	#31783
orlok Close to the Edit! Posts: 9,797 Karma: 267994408 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Amazon Fire 8", Kindle 6"	That's awful, glad to hear your friends are okay.

08-18-2011, 06:58 PM	#31785
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	@ Stitchawl Bloke was very impressed with your clean up of the boat photo, and thanks you very much.