Google PageRank Checksum Algorithm - Page 20

hacker · 11-26-2007, 03:42 PM

Why are people so interested in Google's PageRank value? It means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with respect to a site's quality or content.

PageRank means one thing: Sites link to you. That's it, that's all it means.

Just because a site links to you, doesn't mean your site has any value at all. With the advent of "paid links" and "purchased traffic", the whole meaning of PageRank is diminished.

Frankly, I'm glad that Google has been considering getting rid of PageRank altogether anyway. The notion of backlinks used to have some meaning, but now (like all abuses of the system), it has been overrun by irrelevant, unrelated links.

SEO 2.0 is where everything is heading, and where it should have headed to begin with. Forget optimizing meta tags (note: I've written a tool to do exactly that), forget focusing on backlinks, paid traffic or affiliate programs.

The only way a site continues to be successful and thrive, is through its content. Quality content, brings quality users, who will either return, or link to your site as "authoritative" in its niche.

Or not.

But you have to keep focusing on it. Marketing your niche is a full-time job. You can't just throw a site out there with AdSense ads and walk away, and expect to just cash the checks every month. You need to constantly tweak, rewrite, add/modify, and encourage people to go to the site for the content you have on it.

SEO 2.0 is about organic page relevance. The search engines are getting smarter, and they're now able to analyze trends in the users and the traffic.

They no longer care how many backlinks you have (one of the sites I run has over 23k backlinks and is a PR7), they don't care what your meta tags say, they care what users are visiting your site, at what frequency, and how often they come back, and from what sites they're coming from.

Focus on content, because content is king.

Market your niche, and bring in users, and let those users advertise for you. This is no different than being in the real world selling products. You're selling your site to visitors. It is no different.

PageRank, while a neat way to say "My PR is bigger than your PR", means nothing, if you don't know how to turn that PR into something useful by marketing to those people who link to you, and marketing to the users who sit behind those backlink sites.

TadW · 11-26-2007, 07:06 PM

Some people use PR to determine how much they can ask for a link from their site. I think it was recently that Google penalized a lot of sites, including prominent ones, for selling text links.

JSWolf · 11-26-2007, 07:20 PM

I think this thread is just silly and has no real purpose.

Alexander Turcic · 11-26-2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I think this thread is just silly and has no real purpose.

Jon, I think it used to have a purpose. If my memory serves me right, this was the first place the algorithm for querying the Google Pagerank was publicly revealed. From there on, all of today's pagerank checker tools emerged.

But I agree with you guys... Pagerank is a relict of the past (when Google was still a lab project).

hm2k · 11-30-2007, 05:20 AM

If PageRank was pointless/worthless google wouldn't include it on their toolbar would they? *grin*

PageRank is a result of their algorithm, it's as much a part of Google as the serps. Created by Larry Page, one of the founders of Google. (hence the name? heh), it's not going anywhere.

However, in a way "hacker" is correct, pagerank is purely a webmaster tool.

All you need to really do is focus on your content, and backlinks.
Do NOT focus on PR, because it will get you nowhere fast.

Content is king - get that right, and the rest will follow.

Backlinks are key - why do you think google used to be called backrub? google is built around backlinks.

Enjoy!

Ohwada · 02-10-2008, 03:48 AM

sorry. double post. same as #292

Ohwada · 02-10-2008, 03:54 AM

Thank you for useful program.

I rewrite to PHP class.
and show green bar same as "Google Toolbar".

demonstration
http://linux.ohwada.jp/demo/google_pagerank/

source code
https://sourceforge.jp/projects/xoop...id=29337#29337

AboutSledge · 08-20-2008, 02:53 AM

http://home.zhiwei.li/pagerank/
(in PHP and Python)

Algorithm for Firefox is easy, for IE is terrible

pigreek · 10-20-2008, 06:44 AM

I tried to get the correct hash number in java but I use an old program that does not work with long url. (http://www.webmasterwords.com/pagerank-checksum-in-java)
Have anyone a java implementation of hash calculus?

Thnaks

hacker · 10-20-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigreek

I tried to get the correct hash number in java but I use an old program that does not work with long url. (http://www.webmasterwords.com/pagerank-checksum-in-java)
Have anyone a java implementation of hash calculus?

Thnaks

Forget PageRank; focusing on it is pointless and it has become an irrelevant measure of ranking your website's "quality" in current times. It served its purpose when it was created, but that purpose is no longer needed now.

Move past it now, everyone else has.

hm2k · 08-03-2011, 11:11 AM

Updated with latest code:

http://pagerankviewer.com/

11-26-2007, 03:42 PM	#286
hacker Technology Mercenary Posts: 617 Karma: 2561 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East Lyme, CT Device: Direct Neural Implant	The Myster of PageRank Why are people so interested in Google's PageRank value? It means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with respect to a site's quality or content. PageRank means one thing: Sites link to you. That's it, that's all it means. Just because a site links to you, doesn't mean your site has any value at all. With the advent of "paid links" and "purchased traffic", the whole meaning of PageRank is diminished. Frankly, I'm glad that Google has been considering getting rid of PageRank altogether anyway. The notion of backlinks used to have some meaning, but now (like all abuses of the system), it has been overrun by irrelevant, unrelated links. SEO 2.0 is where everything is heading, and where it should have headed to begin with. Forget optimizing meta tags (note: I've written a tool to do exactly that), forget focusing on backlinks, paid traffic or affiliate programs. The only way a site continues to be successful and thrive, is through its content. Quality content, brings quality users, who will either return, or link to your site as "authoritative" in its niche. Or not. But you have to keep focusing on it. Marketing your niche is a full-time job. You can't just throw a site out there with AdSense ads and walk away, and expect to just cash the checks every month. You need to constantly tweak, rewrite, add/modify, and encourage people to go to the site for the content you have on it. SEO 2.0 is about organic page relevance. The search engines are getting smarter, and they're now able to analyze *trends* in the users and the traffic. They no longer care how many backlinks you have (one of the sites I run has over 23k backlinks and is a PR7), they don't care what your meta tags say, they care what users are visiting your site, at what frequency, and how often they come back, and from what sites they're coming from. Focus on content, because content is king. Market your niche, and bring in users, and let those users advertise for you. This is no different than being in the real world selling products. You're selling your site to visitors. It is no different. PageRank, while a neat way to say "My PR is bigger than your PR", means nothing, if you don't know how to turn that PR into something useful by marketing to those people who link to you, and marketing to the users who sit behind those backlink sites.

11-30-2007, 05:20 AM	#290
hm2k Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006	If PageRank was pointless/worthless google wouldn't include it on their toolbar would they? grin PageRank is a result of their algorithm, it's as much a part of Google as the serps. Created by Larry Page, one of the founders of Google. (hence the name? heh), it's not going anywhere. However, in a way "hacker" is correct, pagerank is purely a webmaster tool. All you need to really do is focus on your content, and backlinks. Do NOT focus on PR, because it will get you nowhere fast. Content is king - get that right, and the rest will follow. Backlinks are key - why do you think google used to be called backrub? google is built around backlinks. Enjoy! Last edited by hm2k; 11-30-2007 at 05:23 AM.

02-10-2008, 03:48 AM	#291
Ohwada Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: docomo	sorry. double post. same as #292 Last edited by Ohwada; 02-16-2008 at 06:51 AM.

02-10-2008, 03:54 AM	#292
Ohwada Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: docomo	PHP class Thank you for useful program. I rewrite to PHP class. and show green bar same as "Google Toolbar". demonstration http://linux.ohwada.jp/demo/google_pagerank/ source code https://sourceforge.jp/projects/xoop...id=29337#29337

08-20-2008, 02:53 AM	#293
AboutSledge Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 24 Join Date: Sep 2005	Checksum Algorithem Update http://home.zhiwei.li/pagerank/ (in PHP and Python) Algorithm for Firefox is easy, for IE is terrible

11-26-2007, 07:06 PM	#287
TadW Uebermensch Posts: 2,583 Karma: 1094606 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Device: Kindle	Some people use PR to determine how much they can ask for a link from their site. I think it was recently that Google penalized a lot of sites, including prominent ones, for selling text links.

11-26-2007, 07:20 PM	#288
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,088 Karma: 144284144 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I think this thread is just silly and has no real purpose.

10-20-2008, 06:44 AM	#294
pigreek Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: none	Java?? I tried to get the correct hash number in java but I use an old program that does not work with long url. (http://www.webmasterwords.com/pagerank-checksum-in-java) Have anyone a java implementation of hash calculus? Thnaks

08-03-2011, 11:11 AM	#296
hm2k Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006	Updated with latest code: http://pagerankviewer.com/

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