Greek with diacritics in Adobe DE - Page 2

gthalas · 10-12-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by omk3

Beat me to it, charleski! After trying to use the font myself to show that it can be done, (in vain I might add), I tried with a different one, and all was fine. So the problem lies with the font. I don't know what exactly its problem was - I thought it might be the font size, but encoding seems more plausible.

I attach an example epub with a greek sentence and an embedded font to show that it can work. The font is GFSArtemisia.ttf, found here http://www.greekfontsociety.gr/pages...faces20th.html , and the license states that

I noticed that you have some sony e-readers. I am also a Greek and I have heard that the greek support is problematic in sony devices. How did you insert the extra fonts?
Can you read greek ebooks normally (I mean even those books bought from e-bookstores) or is it just those pdfs that are scanned documents and the reader perceives as images?

omk3 · 10-13-2010, 06:37 AM

Welcome to the forum, gthalas.

You can certainly read greek text-based pdfs on a sony, though it might not look pretty when you use reflow.

If you have an epub without embedded fonts, as long as it is not drmed, you can either embed a greek font like in my example above (you can use sigil for that), or, if you want to do it for more ebooks, you can place a greek font inside your reader and just alter the css to link to this font. Here is an example of how to do it: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=102146

More work than it should be, certainly. Ideally you should just place an ebook into your reader, and start reading, instead of all this tinkering... There are readers that can do that of course, and it's one of them I will be buying next.

Fabe · 10-13-2010, 09:51 AM

My diacritical problem is not with Greek, but Pali.

Kaṅkhā-vitaraṇī-purāṇa-ṭīkā and the Kaṅkhā-vitaraṇī-abhinava-ṭīkā

Often, the foreign characters and accented ones come out as ersatz math symbols.

I use Sigil and posted a question about this there. I'm told if I "... ensure
that you are including the encoding declaration [UTF-8] (in XML) and in the
XHTML <meta> element," all will be well. I do not know how to do this correctly.

Any and all advice is appreciated. - Fabe

ATDrake · 10-13-2010, 12:00 PM

The XML declaration is <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>, which you put at the very top of every XML/XHTML file.

The encoding declaration is <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />, which goes inside the <head> of every XHTML doc (I generally skip this if I've already got the XML declaration in, but it can't hurt to add it in).

Hope this helps.

Fabe · 10-13-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATDrake

Hope this helps.

Thanks ATDrake. Yes, my fog is starting to lift. I've been getting feedback in the Sigil Forum here. - Fabe

wannabee · 10-25-2010, 09:47 AM

While we are discussing font character display has anyone got a handle on why different files all using identical styles in both cs4 and the CSS have various characters rendering differently. Ie. " ' bullets, en and em dashes. Fine in one chapter, not in the next. It's got me beat and I just edit them out but with 17 more books to go I'd sure like to find the right switch to turn them on and off.

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10-13-2010, 06:37 AM	#17
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	Welcome to the forum, gthalas. You can certainly read greek text-based pdfs on a sony, though it might not look pretty when you use reflow. If you have an epub without embedded fonts, as long as it is not drmed, you can either embed a greek font like in my example above (you can use sigil for that), or, if you want to do it for more ebooks, you can place a greek font inside your reader and just alter the css to link to this font. Here is an example of how to do it: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=102146 More work than it should be, certainly. Ideally you should just place an ebook into your reader, and start reading, instead of all this tinkering... There are readers that can do that of course, and it's one of them I will be buying next.

10-13-2010, 09:51 AM	#18
Fabe Dylanologist Posts: 200 Karma: 146754 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hanover, New Hampshire, USA Device: none/all/any	My diacritical problem is not with Greek, but Pali. Kaṅkhā-vitaraṇī-purāṇa-ṭīkā and the Kaṅkhā-vitaraṇī-abhinava-ṭīkā Often, the foreign characters and accented ones come out as ersatz math symbols. I use Sigil and posted a question about this there. I'm told if I "... ensure that you are including the encoding declaration [UTF-8] (in XML) and in the XHTML <meta> element," all will be well. I do not know how to do this correctly. Any and all advice is appreciated. - Fabe

10-13-2010, 12:00 PM	#19
ATDrake Wizzard Posts: 11,517 Karma: 33048258 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Roundworld Device: Kindle 2 International, Sony PRS-T1, BlackBerry PlayBook, Acer Iconia	The XML declaration is <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>, which you put at the very top of every XML/XHTML file. The encoding declaration is <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />, which goes inside the <head> of every XHTML doc (I generally skip this if I've already got the XML declaration in, but it can't hurt to add it in). Hope this helps.

10-25-2010, 09:47 AM	#21
wannabee Media Bloke Posts: 2,382 Karma: 113956855 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NSW - Australia Device: iOS	While we are discussing font character display has anyone got a handle on why different files all using identical styles in both cs4 and the CSS have various characters rendering differently. Ie. " ' bullets, en and em dashes. Fine in one chapter, not in the next. It's got me beat and I just edit them out but with 17 more books to go I'd sure like to find the right switch to turn them on and off.

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