Dual e-ink screen ereader - Page 2

GeoffC · 09-21-2010, 06:27 AM

I like the protection aspect afforded by the two-pane design, but like some others I now prefer the single hold/viewing pane of both my readers. Although there are some occasions when two screens would be useful!

I wonder the use of a scroll on the side, seems to me perhaps too easy to accidentally 'spin'.

Graham · 09-21-2010, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

Although there are some occasions when two screens would be useful!

Now, if you could freeze one screen while continuing through the book on the other, so that you could keep an illustration, diagram or table in view while continuing to read, I might be interested.

And if both screens could operate independently so that you could compare two books side by side, it could be useful. As long as it didn't cost more than buying two separate readers such as the Kindle, of course...

Graham

Sweetpea · 09-21-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Graham

Now, if you could freeze one screen while continuing through the book on the other, so that you could keep an illustration, diagram or table in view while continuing to read, I might be interested.

And if both screens could operate independently so that you could compare two books side by side, it could be useful. As long as it didn't cost more than buying two separate readers such as the Kindle, of course...

Graham

Yes, that was what I was thinking as well. Two pages is nice, as long as I can decide what is on those pages...

GeoffC · 09-21-2010, 06:46 AM

Yep !

Logseman · 09-21-2010, 07:12 AM

As some members have pointed out, this idea seems great for the reason that the article doesn't state: multimedia reading. Call it maps. Call it text in one page, graphs in the other. Call it making scientific literature quotations easily traceable. Or maybe studying literature, in which you can read a certain book analysis and the analysed book at the same time. Call it having the book in its original language in one side and a translation (in any language) in the other one. Dual screen books have their place.

Latinandgreek · 09-21-2010, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Yes, that was what I was thinking as well. Two pages is nice, as long as I can decide what is on those pages...

Definitely. Two pages would be great for foreign language learners - they could have foreign language text on one page, and grammar notes, definitions or translations on the other page. Perhaps a PDF page could be spread across both pages? That would be about an A4 size, no? It would be much easier to carry with you than a large screened reader.

I'm not crazy about the page folding to flip pages, either. I'm would probably accidentally turn pages.

Lady Fitzgerald · 09-21-2010, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

...It must remind me of a real book, instead of yelling at my face I AM a GADGET!...

You would think I'm really outside the box then. When I read an e-book at home, I comfortable stretch out on my bed and read it off my 32" TV screen (mounted high on the wall), using a wireless mouse as a "remote" to turn the pages. Frankly, if it's easier for me, I couldn't care less if what I'm reading from looks like a book or not. I personally feel p-books are a hurt in the donkey. I have to hold the dang things open (especially paperbacks). Turning pages often requires two hands (one to hold the book, the other to turn the page). If reading in bed, I have to hold the book up if laying on my back, even if propped up, or, if laying on my side, I have to hold the book and turn pages with one hand while propping up my head with another (and my 61 year old carcass doesn't appreciate that).

Away from home, I use my JetBook Lite. My JBL's battery bump is a convenient kickstand (albeit a bit short; fortunately, I'm tall) when used in landscape (which I do 95% of the time) and it lays nicely on a table without any help from me. A simple finger press turns the pages. If eating messy finger type food while reading, all I have to do is keep my left pinkie clean (and it looks so sophisticated when I eat with my pinkie extended

). Couldn't do that with p-books! Anywhere else, it is easy to hold and turn pages with one hand (try that with a p-book) and is lighter than many books.

church mouse · 09-21-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Logseman

As some members have pointed out, this idea seems great for the reason that the article doesn't state: multimedia reading. Call it maps. Call it text in one page, graphs in the other. Call it making scientific literature quotations easily traceable. Or maybe studying literature, in which you can read a certain book analysis and the analysed book at the same time. Call it having the book in its original language in one side and a translation (in any language) in the other one. Dual screen books have their place.

It seems to me that this added flexibility would only only come once the two page reader had already established itself - who is going to develop product specifically for a two page reader before the reader has already established its presence?

My belief was that a two page reader would be unattractive to the bulk market looking for a book reader, but it would seem from many of the postings here that I was wrong.

Latinandgreek · 09-21-2010, 07:40 AM

I wouldn't run out and buy a reader like this as soon as it came out, but if it received good reviews and could accomplish things that one-screened readers couldn't I would definitely consider it. A one-screen reader would probably be more comfortable to read from, as it could be read with one hand, but a two-screened reader could have many advantages if properly designed.

MrPLD · 09-21-2010, 07:57 AM

What I would love is a dual-screen A4 size eInk device. Something I can load up my PDFs on to take with me - if there's one thing I'm always cursing about in the electronics workshop is having to constantly come back/forth to the computer to review technical datasheets - or print them out (which invariably means they'll get lost and printed multiple times).

The other great use, again for the electronics workshop is for me to pull up my assembly guides - one can't be expected to remember the right parts to use across every product every time when there's hundreds of parts involved (Oh how I wish I had a robot to do this for me

).

Paul.

ghost68 · 09-21-2010, 07:58 AM

that is an interesting design. Just think if they take the design further and make it simular to Microsoft's Courier. Have a screen (one or both) that you could use a stylist and be able to highlight text. Then create notes. It could be very interesting. As far as the moving of the page for page flip, I see that being a weak point. I would like to see just a botton on both sides (or scroll wheels). I would also like to see it use sd or micro-sd memory as well as having a good amount of internal memory.

Ghost68

astra · 09-21-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPLD

What I would love is a dual-screen A4 size eInk device.
Paul.

Can you imagine how much it would weight? Probably for use in workshop it would be fine but as a portable reader...but I think you will get it in 3-5 years. When flexible eInk displays become available.

FlorenceArt · 09-21-2010, 08:33 AM

Well, I suppose it will appeal to some. Whatever floats your boat, as they say.

I do think this obsession with making the digital world look like the real world is holding us back though. I've been reading my newspaper (Le Monde) on my iPod lately, on an app that is designed for iPad. The interface is based on copies of each page of the paper version, and you must click on an article to read it. I'm sure it feels reassuring, but as interfaces go, it's pathetically inadequate. This is an extreme example, but I'm sure this is true in many small ways that we don't even realize.

As for me, I haven't much use for an e-reading device that would need two hands to hold. As it happens, two hands is all I have, and usually I need at least one of them free when I am riding the train to and from work, which is when I do most of my reading. And even when I am at home, how will I hold that glass of wine if I am holding the reader with two hands?

kindlekitten · 09-21-2010, 09:29 AM

one handed reading is one of the advantages of ebooks as far as I am concerned. try using that thing on a stationary bike or elliptical machine, walking the dog, etc

TheJohnNewton · 09-21-2010, 09:43 AM

I don't see making it like a "real" book as an advantage. For just plain old "real" reading I'd rather have one screen that acts like a "real" scroll. Some above have mentioned some good ideas for taking advantage of the two screens but for everyday reading I can really only use one screen at a time. The other one is just getting in my way. One other thought on taking advantage of the two screens, have the ability to fold it open flat and use it as one big screen for large maps or graphics.

09-21-2010, 07:58 AM	#26
ghost68 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 60 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	I must say that is an interesting design. Just think if they take the design further and make it simular to Microsoft's Courier. Have a screen (one or both) that you could use a stylist and be able to highlight text. Then create notes. It could be very interesting. As far as the moving of the page for page flip, I see that being a weak point. I would like to see just a botton on both sides (or scroll wheels). I would also like to see it use sd or micro-sd memory as well as having a good amount of internal memory. Ghost68

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09-21-2010, 06:27 AM	#16
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	I like the protection aspect afforded by the two-pane design, but like some others I now prefer the single hold/viewing pane of both my readers. Although there are some occasions when two screens would be useful! I wonder the use of a scroll on the side, seems to me perhaps too easy to accidentally 'spin'.

09-21-2010, 06:46 AM	#19
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Yep !

09-21-2010, 07:12 AM	#20
Logseman Orisa Posts: 2,001 Karma: 1035571 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Device: Onyx Poke 5	As some members have pointed out, this idea seems great for the reason that the article doesn't state: multimedia reading. Call it maps. Call it text in one page, graphs in the other. Call it making scientific literature quotations easily traceable. Or maybe studying literature, in which you can read a certain book analysis and the analysed book at the same time. Call it having the book in its original language in one side and a translation (in any language) in the other one. Dual screen books have their place.

09-21-2010, 07:40 AM	#24
Latinandgreek Warrior Princess Posts: 5,038 Karma: 9724231 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505; PRS-350, PRS-T1, iPad, Aura HD	I wouldn't run out and buy a reader like this as soon as it came out, but if it received good reviews and could accomplish things that one-screened readers couldn't I would definitely consider it. A one-screen reader would probably be more comfortable to read from, as it could be read with one hand, but a two-screened reader could have many advantages if properly designed.

09-21-2010, 07:57 AM	#25
MrPLD Author's pet-geek Posts: 933 Karma: 1040670 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Queensland, Australia Device: Kindle 3 Wifi, Onyx Boox M96	What I would love is a dual-screen A4 size eInk device. Something I can load up my PDFs on to take with me - if there's one thing I'm always cursing about in the electronics workshop is having to constantly come back/forth to the computer to review technical datasheets - or print them out (which invariably means they'll get lost and printed multiple times). The other great use, again for the electronics workshop is for me to pull up my assembly guides - one can't be expected to remember the right parts to use across every product every time when there's hundreds of parts involved (Oh how I wish I had a robot to do this for me ). Paul.

09-21-2010, 08:33 AM	#28
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Well, I suppose it will appeal to some. Whatever floats your boat, as they say. I do think this obsession with making the digital world look like the real world is holding us back though. I've been reading my newspaper (Le Monde) on my iPod lately, on an app that is designed for iPad. The interface is based on copies of each page of the paper version, and you must click on an article to read it. I'm sure it feels reassuring, but as interfaces go, it's pathetically inadequate. This is an extreme example, but I'm sure this is true in many small ways that we don't even realize. As for me, I haven't much use for an e-reading device that would need two hands to hold. As it happens, two hands is all I have, and usually I need at least one of them free when I am riding the train to and from work, which is when I do most of my reading. And even when I am at home, how will I hold that glass of wine if I am holding the reader with two hands?

09-21-2010, 09:29 AM	#29
kindlekitten Professional Adventuress Posts: 13,368 Karma: 50260224 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Olympic Peninsula on the OTHER Washington! (the big green clean one on the west coast!) Device: Kindle, the original! Times Two! and gifting an International Kindle	one handed reading is one of the advantages of ebooks as far as I am concerned. try using that thing on a stationary bike or elliptical machine, walking the dog, etc

09-21-2010, 09:43 AM	#30
TheJohnNewton Addict Posts: 256 Karma: 144599 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Boox Nova 2	I don't see making it like a "real" book as an advantage. For just plain old "real" reading I'd rather have one screen that acts like a "real" scroll. Some above have mentioned some good ideas for taking advantage of the two screens but for everyday reading I can really only use one screen at a time. The other one is just getting in my way. One other thought on taking advantage of the two screens, have the ability to fold it open flat and use it as one big screen for large maps or graphics.

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