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Old 09-11-2010, 02:20 AM   #16
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Interestingly the company I work for actually puts, what is basically, a browser hijacker on our laptops. I can get rid of it, but every time we log on to the company's network it gets added back on to the laptop. What does it do? It makes our home page the companies main trashy web site.

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I'm using Firefox, but I've got a jscript virus that nothing I've used will detect and I haven't found any way to get rid of it. When I search for anything, the search results page appears then is immediately replaced by another page from something like photo7li.com When I turn off javascript, the error doesn't happen, but lots of things on pages I visit frequently don't work (including google maps.)

So I turn off javascript, do the search, and turn it back on again. I've found references to similar errors from previous years, but the solutions posted don't work for this one. While searching for a solution, I tried alternate searches from Yahoo and got the same result. I didn't try Bing, but only because I didn't like their page anyway.
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:34 AM   #17
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"The last virus that bit was a Word Macro virus on a floppy from my then boss,"

Interestingly the company I work for actually puts, what is basically, a browser hijacker on our laptops. I can get rid of it, but every time we log on to the company's network it gets added back on to the laptop. What does it do? It makes our home page the companies main trashy web site.
That's a fairly standard practice. When you log on to the corporate network, you authenticate to a domain, and a login script is run that can set up various things like mapped drives on servers. It sounds like yours is adding a registry tweak to set IE's home page. No hijacker software is required. Just an update to the place where the browser stores what the home page is.

I've seen setups where attaching to the network forces a virus scan on the machine, and for good reason. At a previous employer, I once spent several days helping to clean out a virus infection that got in from an infected laptop plugged into the network at the office. There were firewalls and proxy, A/V and malware scanners on the servers, so we didn't worry about folks picking up something nasty while accessing the Internet from in the office, but once an infected machine was in the office, it had bypassed those protections.

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We're limited to what we can install on the laptops so the best way to get around it is with Google Chrome on a USB drive. But that's a nuisance so I just gave up.
If my option for stuff the company supplied was IE, I would install something else on a USB drive. There a good portable Firefox implementation meant for such cases. It would be simple self-defense as a security precaution, as well as preserving my sanity in dealing with the browser.

But I wouldn't bother trying to defeat a home page setting. It's not enough of a problem to be worth a lot of effort, and it is the company's machine.
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:43 AM   #18
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I have Chrome and firefox installe on work PC.
As a developer, non being admin on our PC would be a mess, as we need to install stuff every now and then. And we're usually acknowledged as techy-savvy enough not to break the system. Though much to my annoyance, we can't deactivate the anti virus. When it decides to run it's scan, using the PC to work is impossible.
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I have Chrome and firefox installe on work PC.
As a developer, non being admin on our PC would be a mess, as we need to install stuff every now and then. And we're usually acknowledged as techy-savvy enough not to break the system. Though much to my annoyance, we can't deactivate the anti virus. When it decides to run it's scan, using the PC to work is impossible.
I'm an IT guy, so I usually don't have to deal with that sort of restriction. I can (and do) install anything I like. End users normally get Power User profiles which let them run installed applications but not install their own. If they need something not part of the image, they submit a request signed off by their boss explaining why they need it, and someone like me does it for them. Having spent way too much time fixing PCs hobbled by random stuff users DLed/installed, I'm all in favor if this policy.

Which A/V? You may not be able to turn it off, but it sounds like you ought to be able to adjust when it is scheduled to run a scan.
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I'm using Firefox, but I've got a jscript virus that nothing I've used will detect and I haven't found any way to get rid of it. When I search for anything, the search results page appears then is immediately replaced by another page from something like photo7li.com When I turn off javascript, the error doesn't happen, but lots of things on pages I visit frequently don't work (including google maps.)

So I turn off javascript, do the search, and turn it back on again. I've found references to similar errors from previous years, but the solutions posted don't work for this one. While searching for a solution, I tried alternate searches from Yahoo and got the same result. I didn't try Bing, but only because I didn't like their page anyway.
What have you tried to banish it?

Firefox is good but not invulnerable. Nothing is.

One thing you can try is seeing whether you have a corrupted profile. Firefox installs in two places. The program itself installs under Windows in Program Files\Mozilla Firefox. Installing it creates a profile under Documents and Settings\<user name>\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox. (Local Settings is a hidden directory, and won't show in a standard list.)

The profile is where user specific stuff like bookmarks, history, cache and add-ons are stored.

You can use Firefox Profile Manager to create a new profile. Invoke Firefox as "firefox -p" to start in Profile Manager mode. You can create a fresh profile, give it a name, and specify where it is put when created. (I keep all that stuff under a \Mozilla directory to make maintenance simple, like \Mozilla\Profiles\Firefox\3.0\Dennis McCunney\)

Start Firefox using that profile and see if the issues persist.. If they don't, you have a corrupted profile, and need to migrate stuff like your bookmarks to the new one and delete the old one.

If the problems persist in a clean profile, Firefox itself may have been corrupted, and you need to remove and re-install it. (Removing and re-installing will not touch any existing profiles.)

If neither of those fixes it, you have a problem outside of the browser. I'd recommend a complete virus scan, and a complete malware scan with something like MalwareBytes anti-malware app.
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Which A/V? You may not be able to turn it off, but it sounds like you ought to be able to adjust when it is scheduled to run a scan.
That's office scan. And no I can't, only domain admin can.
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But I wouldn't bother trying to defeat a home page setting. It's not enough of a problem to be worth a lot of effort, and it is the company's machine.
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That's what I decided. Doing a scan from my thumb drive I get "hijack.homepage" as the problem. It is their computer and if they want it to always connect to their public website, fine.

As I said, I'm somewhat limited as to what I can install. They can't shut down the USB as I need to use it to transfer data to/from the clients PCs.

For the most part I only use the company laptop for company email and certain propriety software. It uses MS Internet Explorer and McAfee. McAfee is on auto update. Even so it hasn’t stopped all viruses.

Because I don't consider the company laptop secure enough I use my own laptop to transfer data to/from the thumb drive. I also scan the thumb drive before and after using it in someone else’s computer.

Luckily they also gave me a 3G USB internet connection modem. When I need to do online searches I use that in my computer.
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I'm on a couple of computer forums and there are always posts about new exploits being found in the Adobe reader, many more than most people, I think, are ever aware of. Because it's such a popular product, it is targeted by the malware creators. Most of the people on those forums use alternative viewers because of that.

I've got the Adobe reader on my computer but I no longer use it as my default PDF viewer. I use the freeware PDF-XChange Viewer, and have done so for a few years. Foxit is also a good one.

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I'm using Firefox, but I've got a jscript virus that nothing I've used will detect and I haven't found any way to get rid of it. When I search for anything, the search results page appears then is immediately replaced by another page from something like photo7li.com When I turn off javascript, the error doesn't happen, but lots of things on pages I visit frequently don't work (including google maps.)

So I turn off javascript, do the search, and turn it back on again. I've found references to similar errors from previous years, but the solutions posted don't work for this one. While searching for a solution, I tried alternate searches from Yahoo and got the same result. I didn't try Bing, but only because I didn't like their page anyway.
You're using Firefox? There's a plugin that causes search-engine hijacking, only I don't know which one. My wife had the same problem, and we googled for a solution. We tried many, including AV and Malwarebytes and several uninstall and reinstalls of Firefox. The thing was, she had half a dozen add-ins that she liked, and she'd reinstall those all at once, rather than doing it one at a time. We figured they were safe; they were from the Mozilla site. We finally refrained from reinstalling all the add-ins, except X-marks (which seems fine). The problem went away, and has not returned. Then she went on a long trip, and we never finished tracking down the culprit.

The only one I remember that she did not reinstall was one for Craigslist that caused an info popup on mouseover of a listing.

Anyway, you might try uninstalling your add-ins and see if that helps.
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Linux stll have less virus. it's a bit harder to mess up, and as most people uses windows, no one will bother writing virus for linux.
I don't use an anti virus, just the freebox as a firewall. Security is 95% the user's work. Windows, MacOS, linux, they all resist as long as the user don't do anything stupid.

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The problem with the antivirus software is that it gives you false sense of security. Antivirus is like wearing a body armor, yeah, you can survive most of the shots, but one in the head will get you down anyway. Not using any kind of AV for 10 years now, not a single threat (yeah, doing online scans from time to time just to make sure). I just recommend caution using the computer, that's enough:

1. Use the lowest popularity browser, that is not based on something popular, like opera, very unlikely something with 1% to be the target of an attack.
1a. Or use google chrome - it is the only browser sandboxing every site you open, so even if something penetrates the browser itself, it can do no harm to the system, just close the tab and you are done.
2. Enable flash (&scripts) in sites when you actually need it - there is some bit of software for every browser that disables flash by default, leave it open for youtube and then if you want to see some in a site you trust - enable that specific one
3. Disable the autorun - infected usb flashes are so common
4. If you have some doubt in an executable, give it a hard check with not one, but 40ish antiviruses in http://www.virustotal.com/
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Hmm. I have 6.0.472.55 and when it checks for updates it tells me it is up to date. And reinstalling from the website gives me the same version.

Edit: Ahh, you mean the beta versions, not the release ones.

Edit 2: No, you mean the developer release

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Edit: Ahh, you mean the beta versions, not the release ones.

Edit 2: No, you mean the developer release
Correct, and I really should have specified. I grabbed the dev branch in the first place because I wanted support for extensions, which was new and only in dev builds at the time.
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