K3 battery life stinks... what? - Page 2

jswinden · 08-28-2010, 01:08 PM

Another major battery drain on Kindles (and smartphones too) is 3G left on when you live in a marginal coverage area or it is at least marginal within your house/workplace. I have to keep my 3G turned off on my Kindle DXG because it has trouble getting and keeping a 3G connection with our terrible AT&T service. Our cellular phones also have this issue. If the 3G radio spends a lot of time trying to connect you will see a significant battery drain. This isn't Amazon's fault. In my case it is the fault of a lackluster and outdated AT&T cellular infrastructure that has been overly burdened by the meteoric rise in use of smatphones.

vugtitan · 08-28-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

When you load a new book onto the Kindle, a background task indexes the book so that it can be rapidly searched. This only happens once for each book, but it does take quite a long time to do. It's not something you actually notice, other than by the fact that the Kindle uses battery power while it's doing it.

Can you disable this indexing or make it only relevant to the title of the book?

i don't really want to search the text in the books.i just want the titles to be indexed/found so i can read it.

just as a matter of interest could i index the books on my pc instead and load the index file into the kindle instead so the kindle does not need todo it all??

Viseguy · 08-28-2010, 02:37 PM

Glad I read this thread. I have a few hundred books waiting to be DL'd from Amazon into the K3 when it arrives in a couple of days. I will definitely keep it plugged in while indexing is in progress.

I wonder if Amazon would somehow automatically stagger the downloads, or at least insure that they occur seriatim rather than simultaneously (yikes), so that the processing load is manageable?

Blog Kindle · 08-28-2010, 03:48 PM

I did some calculations on Kindle 3 battery life and the battery should be good for at least 21 hours of light use and the light should not drain the battery when it's off.

It must have been the indexing.

ppw · 08-28-2010, 03:59 PM

My K3 wifi has crashed three times since I got it Thursday. It has bad battery life. The indexing could be the reason.

jangell2 · 08-28-2010, 04:43 PM

When I read that people are loading 200-300 books at once, I get the feeling you have found a bunch of free or very inexpensive books. Can you point me to threads discussing how to find these books? I already know about the sticky thread about free and bargain books.

Got our first cover but still waiting for the Kindle with no ship date yet, sigh.

Edit: Found the Links in Every Kindle Owner.... thread. Never mind.

kathyfitz · 08-28-2010, 05:45 PM

I am so glad this thread came up, I loaded all 750+ books yesterday from calibre after the battery was fully charged and played around with my new Kindle a little before bed. After seeing this thread, I went to check the battery level, sure enough - only about 25%. I charged it again, unplugged it and the continued drain makes it look like it isn't quite done yet. No problems though!

I have read about this before and should have remembered, but forgot just like I do so many things that I am not using at the moment...

sirmaru · 08-28-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kathyfitz

I am so glad this thread came up, I loaded all 750+ books yesterday from calibre after the battery was fully charged and played around with my new Kindle a little before bed. After seeing this thread, I went to check the battery level, sure enough - only about 25%. I charged it again, unplugged it and the continued drain makes it look like it isn't quite done yet. No problems though!

I have read about this before and should have remembered, but forgot just like I do so many things that I am not using at the moment...

Why would anyone load 750 books on their Kindle. I read 2 books simultaneously per month and discard (archive) all read books.

Even when I used to read pBooks, I threw out the read ones. The only book I have ever re-read is the Bible - 50 times in 50 years.

bwaldron · 08-28-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

Why would anyone load 750 books on their Kindle.

Why would anyone keep 750 "real" books on their bookshelves?

kathyfitz · 08-28-2010, 07:03 PM

Why? Because I can!

No seriously, I travel more often that I would like and not all, probably less than 25%, of my books came from Amazon. I started keeping my library on my Kindle because I was never sure how long I was going to be gone or what I wanted to read next.

Let's not talk about storing paper books....

That is one of the main reasons I got a reader!

whitearrow · 08-28-2010, 08:27 PM

I got my K3 yesterday and I have to say the indexing has been pretty fast. I loaded over 400 items (about 60 samples, 40 short stories) the rest mostly novels -- all but about 90 were done in six hours, and the rest finished overnight (except for a few topaz items I had trouble with, and ended up deleting and reloading one at a time).

One way you can tell how the indexing is doing is to do a search -- choose a "rare" word so it doesn't generate 500 hits, and when it gives you the list it will give you the number of how many titles haven't been indexed yet at the bottom. You can click to see which they are, and if they seem to be stuck you can delete and reload one at a time.

AnemicOak · 08-28-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

Why would anyone load 750 books on their Kindle.

Why wouldn't they?

catsittingstill · 08-28-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Why would anyone load 750 books on their Kindle. I read 2 books simultaneously per month and discard (archive) all read books.

Even when I used to read pBooks, I threw out the read ones. The only book I have ever re-read is the Bible - 50 times in 50 years.

Personally, I can't imagine wanting to read the Bible. And I get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing I have lots to read on my Kindle, including many of my favorite books that I've read four or five times before.

Tastes differ.

Viseguy · 08-28-2010, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirmaru

... I read 2 books simultaneously per month and discard (archive) all read books.

Even when I used to read pBooks, I threw out the read ones. ...

You're probably in the minority there. The dedicated readers that I know -- I mean people, not devices -- keep their books close at hand, not in storage (let alone throw them out).

I'll be keeping hundreds if not thousands of books on my Kindle. I plan to use it as a reference tool as well as a reader. I also look forward to the pleasure of being able to re-read a favorite book, or parts thereof, on the spur of the moment, wherever I happen to be. I can carry two p-books in my backpack; I can't carry two hundred or two thousand.

mdurham · 08-28-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by clintbradford

ONLY when you complete a few complete discharge-charge cycles will the battery pack achieve maximum longevity/capacity. And since no one here has had their Kindle3 units long enough for that to occur ... well ... No "battery condition" reports this week are really of any value.

Hi clintbradford, how do you know this? Can you tell me where you got this info from please.
Thanks, Mike

08-28-2010, 04:43 PM	#21
jangell2 Addict Posts: 296 Karma: 1618384 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle	When I read that people are loading 200-300 books at once, I get the feeling you have found a bunch of free or very inexpensive books. Can you point me to threads discussing how to find these books? I already know about the sticky thread about free and bargain books. Got our first cover but still waiting for the Kindle with no ship date yet, sigh. Edit: Found the Links in Every Kindle Owner.... thread. Never mind. Last edited by jangell2; 08-28-2010 at 05:00 PM.

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08-28-2010, 01:08 PM	#16
jswinden Nameless Being	Another major battery drain on Kindles (and smartphones too) is 3G left on when you live in a marginal coverage area or it is at least marginal within your house/workplace. I have to keep my 3G turned off on my Kindle DXG because it has trouble getting and keeping a 3G connection with our terrible AT&T service. Our cellular phones also have this issue. If the 3G radio spends a lot of time trying to connect you will see a significant battery drain. This isn't Amazon's fault. In my case it is the fault of a lackluster and outdated AT&T cellular infrastructure that has been overly burdened by the meteoric rise in use of smatphones.

08-28-2010, 02:37 PM	#18
Viseguy Just a kid from Bklyn Posts: 135 Karma: 4448 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle 3 Wi-Fi; Samsung Galaxy Tab 7	Glad I read this thread. I have a few hundred books waiting to be DL'd from Amazon into the K3 when it arrives in a couple of days. I will definitely keep it plugged in while indexing is in progress. I wonder if Amazon would somehow automatically stagger the downloads, or at least insure that they occur seriatim rather than simultaneously (yikes), so that the processing load is manageable?

08-28-2010, 03:48 PM	#19
Blog Kindle Addict Posts: 224 Karma: 25122 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 1/2/3/4/Touch/DX/Fire\|PRS-600/350\|Nook(color)\|iPad\|iPad2\|EVO 4G	I did some calculations on Kindle 3 battery life and the battery should be good for at least 21 hours of light use and the light should not drain the battery when it's off. It must have been the indexing.

08-28-2010, 03:59 PM	#20
ppw Connoisseur Posts: 92 Karma: 499180 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle DXG, iPad 3	My K3 wifi has crashed three times since I got it Thursday. It has bad battery life. The indexing could be the reason.

08-28-2010, 05:45 PM	#22
kathyfitz Electronics Whore Posts: 115 Karma: 162 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Mountains of Southern California Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPad, iPad mini, iPhone5, Kindle3	I am so glad this thread came up, I loaded all 750+ books yesterday from calibre after the battery was fully charged and played around with my new Kindle a little before bed. After seeing this thread, I went to check the battery level, sure enough - only about 25%. I charged it again, unplugged it and the continued drain makes it look like it isn't quite done yet. No problems though! I have read about this before and should have remembered, but forgot just like I do so many things that I am not using at the moment...

08-28-2010, 07:03 PM	#25
kathyfitz Electronics Whore Posts: 115 Karma: 162 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Mountains of Southern California Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPad, iPad mini, iPhone5, Kindle3	Why? Because I can! No seriously, I travel more often that I would like and not all, probably less than 25%, of my books came from Amazon. I started keeping my library on my Kindle because I was never sure how long I was going to be gone or what I wanted to read next. Let's not talk about storing paper books.... That is one of the main reasons I got a reader!

08-28-2010, 08:27 PM	#26
whitearrow Guru Posts: 808 Karma: 2260766 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Kindle Oasis 2	I got my K3 yesterday and I have to say the indexing has been pretty fast. I loaded over 400 items (about 60 samples, 40 short stories) the rest mostly novels -- all but about 90 were done in six hours, and the rest finished overnight (except for a few topaz items I had trouble with, and ended up deleting and reloading one at a time). One way you can tell how the indexing is doing is to do a search -- choose a "rare" word so it doesn't generate 500 hits, and when it gives you the list it will give you the number of how many titles haven't been indexed yet at the bottom. You can click to see which they are, and if they seem to be stuck you can delete and reload one at a time.

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