Should you buy eBooks from Kobo in Desktop only format? - Page 2

leighisme · 07-23-2010, 08:12 PM

I'm not focusing on free ebooks. As I said before, I've bought more than 30 books through Kobo and I have about 25 more on my wish list - and they all have epub. In my experience, the only books I've encountered without epub are public domain. Through the links here, people have shown that books without epub do exist - I'm not contesting that. But it seems that those books are in the minority and I have no problem avoiding that small percentage. Why get all upset? Just don't buy them. *shrug*

mylesau · 07-23-2010, 08:20 PM

I'm not getting upset, I'm simply trying to inform others of the issue - you're clouding the topic with references to books that don't have the issue!

pholy · 07-23-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stephenb

Slightly OT, but has anyone installed both the ePub and sqlite version of a book on to their reader?

Yes, I have, more or less by accident when I sync'd after copying an epub I had bought from Kobo. It showed both copies separately. That was with the original software, the upgrade cleaned it up and I haven't re-sync'd since, so only the epub versions with no cover art are showing now. I shall have to try that out.

Back in a bit...

JSWolf · 07-23-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mylesau

A quick step through available eBooks, and on page 4, there is one listed without the ePub option:

Confederacy Of Silence: A True Tale Of The New Old South

no ePub include in the format list.

Just how many there are like this I have no idea, but I think it something to be aware of...

That's ok.. the price is too high anyway.

HarleyB · 07-23-2010, 08:53 PM

I still agree that this is an important issue.
Even though it is relatively rare or that the book that was used as an example is too expensive for everyone to want to buy it still means that you need to check that the book you are buying is available in ePub before you purchase it if that's what you want.
ficbot was offered a "one time refund" and told to read the fine print.
I am one person who didn't even know that particular bit of fine print was there until mylesau pointed it out. I thought that ALL the books were available in ePub. I was wrong and I'm sure I'm not alone.

JSWolf · 07-23-2010, 09:18 PM

There used to be a search option that allowed you to pick ePub as the format so whatever search results you had were eBook available in ePub.

It seems that Kobo's site has taken the good things it used to have and done away with them. They really need to redo the site from the ground up.

leighisme · 07-23-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

There used to be a search option that allowed you to pick ePub as the format so whatever search results you had were eBook available in ePub.

That would be really handy. I wonder why they got rid of that option...

ficbot · 07-23-2010, 09:57 PM

I would still buy that book if I could get it in epub, too. This is a lost sale for them

The book was by Irene Nemirovsky, a popular French writer. She was killed in World War 2 and this lost novel was discovered posthumously by her daughter (or grand-daughter, I don't remember) and edited for publication. It got a lot of press here and I was very interested to read it. So, to the Kobo techie who is apparently reading this thread and posted above, get cracking on the epub and you'll get a sale. No epub, no sale...

JSWolf · 07-23-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by leighisme

That would be really handy. I wonder why they got rid of that option...

They also got rid of the option to sort by date as well.

luqmaninbmore · 07-24-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mylesau

@luqmaninbmore and leighisme, the topic is about books that you buy, i.e. not free books. They exist - links to some examples have been provided. These are the books that people need to be aware of.

Why are you focusing on free books? They are not the subject of the topic!

A.) You did not qualify the topic in the manner you suggest in your initial post.
B.) It's not a big problem, at least for me. Perhaps I have weird tastes.

Luqman

mylesau · 07-25-2010, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by luqmaninbmore

A.) You did not qualify the topic in the manner you suggest in your initial post.

Yes I did - read the title of the thread?

It obviously is a problem for some - you excluded of course...

HarleyB · 07-25-2010, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

There used to be a search option that allowed you to pick ePub as the format so whatever search results you had were eBook available in ePub.

It seems that Kobo's site has taken the good things it used to have and done away with them. They really need to redo the site from the ground up.

I think that is still there. When you do a search you have the option (after you have entered your search words) to filter the results by all, ePub only, PDF only, free only as well as the sort options of top matches, best sellers, price low to high, rating and title.

Canorka · 12-19-2010, 10:40 PM

Just bought Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man. No option to download the epub file.

Crapola.

Opened a ticket with CS. Let's see...

taming · 12-20-2010, 07:08 AM

It should still appear in your website library and work with the desktop application for loading onto the Kobo through sync.

Canorka · 12-20-2010, 11:09 AM

It does yes, but the Kobo app is nonsense. I hate the way the formatting is hijacked by Kobo. Plus, in this case, there's an error on one of the pages (a red notification box appears in lieu of what should be there). I'd much rather have the epub.

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07-23-2010, 08:12 PM	#16
leighisme Connoisseur Posts: 62 Karma: 14 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Whitehorse, YT Device: Kobo Touch, iPhone 4, iPad2	I'm not focusing on free ebooks. As I said before, I've bought more than 30 books through Kobo and I have about 25 more on my wish list - and they all have epub. In my experience, the only books I've encountered without epub are public domain. Through the links here, people have shown that books without epub do exist - I'm not contesting that. But it seems that those books are in the minority and I have no problem avoiding that small percentage. Why get all upset? Just don't buy them. shrug

07-23-2010, 08:20 PM	#17
mylesau Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2010 Device: Kobo	I'm not getting upset, I'm simply trying to inform others of the issue - you're clouding the topic with references to books that don't have the issue!

07-23-2010, 08:53 PM	#20
HarleyB Fanatic Posts: 565 Karma: 1113286 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast Australia Device: Kobo (RIP), iPad, iPhone 4, Kobo Touch x2, Kobo Glo	I still agree that this is an important issue. Even though it is relatively rare or that the book that was used as an example is too expensive for everyone to want to buy it still means that you need to check that the book you are buying is available in ePub before you purchase it if that's what you want. ficbot was offered a "one time refund" and told to read the fine print. I am one person who didn't even know that particular bit of fine print was there until mylesau pointed it out. I thought that ALL the books were available in ePub. I was wrong and I'm sure I'm not alone.

07-23-2010, 09:18 PM	#21
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,550 Karma: 145863177 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	There used to be a search option that allowed you to pick ePub as the format so whatever search results you had were eBook available in ePub. It seems that Kobo's site has taken the good things it used to have and done away with them. They really need to redo the site from the ground up.

07-23-2010, 09:57 PM	#23
ficbot Wizard Posts: 2,409 Karma: 4132096 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Kindle Paperwhite/iOS Kindle App	I would still buy that book if I could get it in epub, too. This is a lost sale for them The book was by Irene Nemirovsky, a popular French writer. She was killed in World War 2 and this lost novel was discovered posthumously by her daughter (or grand-daughter, I don't remember) and edited for publication. It got a lot of press here and I was very interested to read it. So, to the Kobo techie who is apparently reading this thread and posted above, get cracking on the epub and you'll get a sale. No epub, no sale...

12-19-2010, 10:40 PM	#28
Canorka Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 4254 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway Device: Kobo Touch	Just bought Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man. No option to download the epub file. Crapola. Opened a ticket with CS. Let's see...

12-20-2010, 07:08 AM	#29
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	It should still appear in your website library and work with the desktop application for loading onto the Kobo through sync.

12-20-2010, 11:09 AM	#30
Canorka Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 4254 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway Device: Kobo Touch	It does yes, but the Kobo app is nonsense. I hate the way the formatting is hijacked by Kobo. Plus, in this case, there's an error on one of the pages (a red notification box appears in lieu of what should be there). I'd much rather have the epub.

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