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Old 11-08-2010, 07:48 PM   #16
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Correct I don't have a keep original option there either...

Adobe have really screwed the pooch with ePub CS5 output
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:52 PM   #17
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If you must use InDesign to create epub files, at least go to

http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/

and pick up Epub Straight to the Point. Aside from its excellent general info, it has a whole chapter devoted to fixing InDesign created problems...
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If you must use InDesign to create epub files, at least go to

http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/

and pick up Epub Straight to the Point. Aside from its excellent general info, it has a whole chapter devoted to fixing InDesign created problems...
From the looks of the TOC, her advice seems to be to go from a Word file to InDesign to make an epub. That's terrible advice. The fact that she had to write "a whole chapter devoted to fixing InDesign created problems" should have told her that...
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She covered Word for folks who don't have InDesign. You can't judge that book simply by the TOC.
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She covered Word for folks who don't have InDesign. You can't judge that book simply by the TOC.
Of course I can't. That's why I'm interested in what the book actually talks about, and since this thread apparently has people who read it, I'm asking what is is the pipeline she advocates.

If it's interesting, I may buy the book out of curiosity. One can always learn new things.
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She describes two methods of producing epubs. Via Word, and via InDesign.

What I do, is layout the book using InDesign (for Print version) and then do the conversion to epub from that.

I, however, understand that what InDesign makes is simply the epub container with the relevant files needed. To get the decent ePub from ID requires alot more hand coding work.

Liz, does an excellent job describing what ID gives you straight up and what it doesn't. She also goes into detail about how to fix the problems ID creates. For example.

Not adding the Date into the meta data etc etc...
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How have you solved this kind of problem:
My book contains only 1st level headings and they don't start on a new page. How can I keep the book layout as it is and still get the headings in TOC? If I leave the "use 1st level entries as chapter breaks" unchecked, InDesign will chop my chapters by itself with ugly result. I bet somebody has faced the same problem because not in every book a new chapter means a new page
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I don't do Automatic TOC generation as I think it's flakey. Doing a search for TOC problems here and on the Adobe Forums proves it.

I always do the TOC linking manually after I've made the epub. By unzipping and editing the toc.ncx file.
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Each entry in the toc is listed like this:

<navPoint id="navpoint-10" playOrder="11"><navLabel><text>Chapter_05</text></navLabel><content src="Chapter_05.xhtml"/></navPoint>

So all you have to do is move the </navPoint> around to create the TOC levels.

Title page </navPoint>
Part One
Chapter One </navPoint>
Chapter Two </navPoint></navPoint>
Part Two
Chapter Three</navPoint>
Chapter Four</navPoint></navPoint>

Which will look like this:

Title page
Part One
Chapter One
Chapter Two
Part Two
Chapter Three
Chapter Four
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:10 AM   #25
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So do you manually cut your whole document into smaller documents and export your epub from a book?
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Yes. I think I have much more control over it and its parts that way
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:25 PM   #27
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Updated info on InDesign to epub and mobi ?
Hello - no one has posted to this thread for quite some time, but I am looking for other people who are using the InDesign CS5 to epub and mobi workflow on MacOSx.

I have found Liz Castro's epub book very helpful http://www.elizabethcastro.com/epub/ But it doesn't answer all of my questions.

I have also found Anne-Marie Concepcion's video tutorials at Lynda.com very helpful. http://www.lynda.com/InDesign-CS5-tu...d/75445-2.html

These are great resources but I still have issues to resolve.

I posted a new thread a few moments ago with my current experimental workflow. It has info about the software I'm using -- Sigil, Springy, BBEdit or Dreamweaver, and Amazon Kindle Previewer.

I am interested in discovering the simplest, quickest, easiest route from printed book InDesign files to epub and mobi. I'm not interested in making the ebooks look exactly like the printed books, so I've been simplifying my print design files to make the conversion go more smoothly and be compatible with as many devices/readers as possible. (HA!)

KISS -- keep it simple stupid -- is my motto at present!

If you are interested, let's start a forum for this workflow - how do you start a forum?

thank you...
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Hello, everyone I read those post and I got lost. I am not sure if you already find a solution to the inside TOC in indesign cs5.0, However, I have been struggling with this fo a month now and yesterday I found my solution after I wached one of the video lessons of lynda. She gave a link where you can download a script that will fixs the bugs for exporting hyperlinks and cross reference in indesign cs5. Thr only downsize is that do not work with the book option in indesign.
The link where you fan download the sript and there are instructions how to install it and use it is:
www.teusdejong.nl
Hope it will work for someone else.
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Hello - regarding the TOC in indesign cs5 - you can't generate the toc from withing ID5 and export it out. it doesn't work that way. However, you still need to name a stylesheet for the TOC. If you get Elizabeth Castro's Epub Straight to the Point ebook, she tells you the exact steps to follow to export to epub. After that, however, I use Sigil to doctor the exported files. After this point, the instructions in her book are okay, but need to be updated.
There is a fair amount of fixing to do to the ID5 exported epub. You have to know html and CSS, and understand the xml in the .ncx files. I have had good success if the book is all in one InDesign file.
I also watched all of the epub tutorials on lynda.com and got snippets of information that helped a lot. It also helps to inspect someone else's epub in Sigil so you can see what they did, and use that as a guide.
Has anyone tried BookBaby's service? I would like to see an epub that was created by them if anyone can suggest one, that would be great. If you would like to see an epub I did recently, take a look at Rodman Philbrick's Listening to Kids in America available at Barnes & Noble and for the Kindle at Amazon.

thanks for this thread and this forum. other posts and this one have helped me tremendously!
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. . . . . . . . you can't generate the toc from withing ID5 and export it out. it doesn't work that way. . . . . . . . .
Yes you can, it can be achieved this way.

If you Create h1, h2, h3 paragraph styles and use them for chapter headers, section headers and subheadings you can then create a Table of Contents from the LAYOUT menu. When you save the TOC the pointer cursor will display PLACE TEXT. Place it anywhere on the pasteboard off the page. The TOC will display in it's own text box.
When exporting to ePbub the TOC will be included. See the attachment of the InDesign export dialogue box which features the settings for exporting the TOC from InDesign that I use. Don't include fonts if you require it to validate.
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