Kindle in Canada, book selection question - Page 2

babnaw · 08-08-2010, 08:28 PM

I set up the Kindle for my PC program and then I went into the "Manage your kindle" sectoin and put in a US addy and now it shows "United States" as my current country. I tried downloading some free books that previously it wouldn't let me when my account said "Canada" and it let me. My question now is, if I order my Kindle through that account and ship to a US addy, will it ever delete the books already in my library if for some reason it sees my Kindle as Canadian?

I'm hoping it's that easy because what if someone moves to the US? Or what if someone buys the kindle and then sells it, how does someone else get the kindle on the their account? Say I bought a Kindle in Canada and then sold it to someone in the US, how do they switch over the registration and register it under their account now? Can you have the same Kindle registered on two accounts?

Thank you for your help and patience answering my questions ATDrake

ATDrake · 08-08-2010, 09:00 PM

1) Amazon won't delete your books; not after the 1984 fiasco. Though if you're concerned about the possibility, you should keep backup files of them and look into DRM-removal (still legal in Canada, despite the proposed Bill C-32 which seeks to restrict our fair usage rights to an absurd degree, and which you may perhaps want to write your MP to oppose) if applicable.

If your book said on its product page "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited", that's generally a code for DRM-free; no removal is required and you can simply copy it to your other devices without compatiblity issues.

2) Amazon do allow for people moving and having holiday residences, which is why you can enter more than one associated address for your Kindle and switch between them at need. The trick is not to do it too often, or unrealistically (New Zealand to US thrice in 2 weeks, say).

If they catch you, apparently your account may be blocked until you supply them with official proof-of-residence documentation (this has happened to at least one person here on MR).

3) As for how Kindles get swapped around, on the Manage Your Kindle page on your Amazon website account, you can see the info for your Kindle registrations, both physical and app.

For each device, there's an option to deregister, which is how owners remove their Kindles from their accounts before reselling them, and incidentally freeing up one of the normally allowed 6 device licenses for DRM copy-protected books. You can add a Kindle registration in the same way, by putting in the serial number for an unregistered Kindle, or you can do it directly from the device itself, by going into the Settings and entering your Amazon account/password.

4) You can only have your Kindle registered to one account at a time, but you are freely able to de-register and re-register them back and forth as you like, which is how families and sometimes friends will "share" books by temporarily registering the Kindle they want to read upon to the account which has the desired books for just long enough to download the necessary file.

It's very useful in case you want to keep your reading/purchases separate from, say, your kid's (they would normally have access to everything in your archives and the 1-click online buying capability unless their own Kindle was deregistered shortly afterward or you maintained a separate account).

People are sometimes worried about age-inappropriate material and this gives them a modicum of control if they wish to vet their children's reading material (the Kindle has no built-in parental controls, in case you were wondering). Also useful for multi-Kindle households where people have very different reading tastes/spending habits and don't want arguments about going over budget on a joint account or divvying up the expenditures.

SensualPoet · 08-08-2010, 11:18 PM

The simplest solution is to simply buy the Kindle and ship it directly to your door. I bought the Kindle 2 on Nov 20 and it arrived Nov 21. I've had no issues buying from amazon.com for e-books. It's not just that some of the content is a bit different; some of the pricing is different. Yes, many titles are more expensive; surprisingly, some are lower in Canada than the US. If you genuinely are mostly interested in free classics then for the small amount of money you spend at Amazon every year for commercial titles it's probably not worth the hassle of operating a pseudo US account, having a friend ship the Kindle separately, and buying gift cards.

08-08-2010, 09:00 PM	#17
ATDrake Wizzard Posts: 11,517 Karma: 33048258 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Roundworld Device: Kindle 2 International, Sony PRS-T1, BlackBerry PlayBook, Acer Iconia	1) Amazon won't delete your books; not after the 1984 fiasco. Though if you're concerned about the possibility, you should keep backup files of them and look into DRM-removal (still legal in Canada, despite the proposed Bill C-32 which seeks to restrict our fair usage rights to an absurd degree, and which you may perhaps want to write your MP to oppose) if applicable. If your book said on its product page "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited", that's generally a code for DRM-free; no removal is required and you can simply copy it to your other devices without compatiblity issues. 2) Amazon do allow for people moving and having holiday residences, which is why you can enter more than one associated address for your Kindle and switch between them at need. The trick is not to do it too often, or unrealistically (New Zealand to US thrice in 2 weeks, say). If they catch you, apparently your account may be blocked until you supply them with official proof-of-residence documentation (this has happened to at least one person here on MR). 3) As for how Kindles get swapped around, on the Manage Your Kindle page on your Amazon website account, you can see the info for your Kindle registrations, both physical and app. For each device, there's an option to deregister, which is how owners remove their Kindles from their accounts before reselling them, and incidentally freeing up one of the normally allowed 6 device licenses for DRM copy-protected books. You can add a Kindle registration in the same way, by putting in the serial number for an unregistered Kindle, or you can do it directly from the device itself, by going into the Settings and entering your Amazon account/password. 4) You can only have your Kindle registered to one account at a time, but you are freely able to de-register and re-register them back and forth as you like, which is how families and sometimes friends will "share" books by temporarily registering the Kindle they want to read upon to the account which has the desired books for just long enough to download the necessary file. It's very useful in case you want to keep your reading/purchases separate from, say, your kid's (they would normally have access to everything in your archives and the 1-click online buying capability unless their own Kindle was deregistered shortly afterward or you maintained a separate account). People are sometimes worried about age-inappropriate material and this gives them a modicum of control if they wish to vet their children's reading material (the Kindle has no built-in parental controls, in case you were wondering). Also useful for multi-Kindle households where people have very different reading tastes/spending habits and don't want arguments about going over budget on a joint account or divvying up the expenditures. Last edited by ATDrake; 08-08-2010 at 09:03 PM. Reason: Typos, typos everywhere!

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08-08-2010, 08:28 PM	#16
babnaw Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Aluratek Libre	I set up the Kindle for my PC program and then I went into the "Manage your kindle" sectoin and put in a US addy and now it shows "United States" as my current country. I tried downloading some free books that previously it wouldn't let me when my account said "Canada" and it let me. My question now is, if I order my Kindle through that account and ship to a US addy, will it ever delete the books already in my library if for some reason it sees my Kindle as Canadian? I'm hoping it's that easy because what if someone moves to the US? Or what if someone buys the kindle and then sells it, how does someone else get the kindle on the their account? Say I bought a Kindle in Canada and then sold it to someone in the US, how do they switch over the registration and register it under their account now? Can you have the same Kindle registered on two accounts? Thank you for your help and patience answering my questions ATDrake

08-08-2010, 11:18 PM	#18
SensualPoet Wizard Posts: 2,302 Karma: 2607151 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Paperwhite, Asus ZenPad 3, Kobo Glo	The simplest solution is to simply buy the Kindle and ship it directly to your door. I bought the Kindle 2 on Nov 20 and it arrived Nov 21. I've had no issues buying from amazon.com for e-books. It's not just that some of the content is a bit different; some of the pricing is different. Yes, many titles are more expensive; surprisingly, some are lower in Canada than the US. If you genuinely are mostly interested in free classics then for the small amount of money you spend at Amazon every year for commercial titles it's probably not worth the hassle of operating a pseudo US account, having a friend ship the Kindle separately, and buying gift cards.

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