Author Sort

[grizedale]

Only the new added book appears with "name surname" layout in the author name, but this changes when you add a new book. Shutting down the device doesn't arrange the situation, only adding a new book changes de author name of the rest.

I have been seeing this behaviour on my PRS-300 for a while now, the last book I send to my device does not conform to author_sort until another book is added, it is then as required but the book I have just sent is then not as author_sort and so it goes on...

[chaley]

Originally Posted by superplinio

Manage metadata is at "manual". Should it be at "automatic"?

That depends on what you want to have happen. Choose the option that gives the behavior you want.

The display on the Sony device

I am confused, because I cannot replicate the behavior you describe.

My experiment: With a library using Firstname Surname authors, the author sort generation tweak set to 'invert', Manual management, and 'Use Author Sort' checked:
1. Send a book to my PRS-300. Look at Calibre's device display. Most of the books show as Surname, Firstname, because that is how I normally work. The new book just added shows as Firstname Surname, as it should.
2. Disconnect my 300. The new book is listed under Surname, Firstname.
3. Reconnect. Send another new book. Both books are listed in calibre's device view as Firstname Surname.
4. Disconnect. Both new books are listed under Surname, Firstname.

My understanding from your post is that in step 2, you saw Firstname Surname on your Sony. In step 4, you saw Surname, Firstname for the first book, but Firstname Surname for the second book

What do you do differently from the steps in my experiment?

[chaley]

Originally Posted by grizedale

I have been seeing this behaviour on my PRS-300 for a while now, the last book I send to my device does not conform to author_sort until another book is added, it is then as required but the book I have just sent is then not as author_sort and so it goes on...

As described in the previous post, I do not see this behavior.

What version of calibre are you running?

[grizedale]

Originally Posted by chaley

As described in the previous post, I do not see this behavior.

What version of calibre are you running?

0.7.14

[chaley]

Originally Posted by grizedale

0.7.14

How do your configuration and the steps in sending a book differ from the experiment I described?

[grizedale]

Originally Posted by chaley

How do your configuration and the steps in sending a book differ from the experiment I described?

Step 2 it is listed as Firstname, Surname
Step 4, disconnect, original is now listed as Surname, Firstname, book sent in step 3 is now listed as Firstname, Surname

[chaley]

Originally Posted by grizedale

Step 2 it is listed as Firstname, Surname
Step 4, disconnect, original is now listed as Surname, Firstname, book sent in step 3 is now listed as Firstname, Surname

In step 2, is the comma really after Firstname?

Are the rest of the configuration options the same? (metadata management, the author_sort tweak, etc?)

Does this happen every time, or only for books newly added to the library?

Apologies for all the questions, but given that I cannot reproduce the behavior on a PRS-300 with calibre 0.7.14, something must be different either in what we do or how calibre is configured.

[grizedale]

Originally Posted by chaley

In step 2, is the comma really after Firstname?

Are the rest of the configuration options the same? (metadata management, the author_sort tweak, etc?)

Does this happen every time, or only for books newly added to the library?

Apologies for all the questions, but given that I cannot reproduce the behavior on a PRS-300 with calibre 0.7.14, something must be different either in what we do or how calibre is configured.

Yes comma is after Firstname, all configurations are the same.

It happens everytime

No need to apologise, I undertsand how these things go, I have made no changes to my device since this worked as it should, it just came about and I assumed it was a prob with my device, its only seeing another user with a similar prob that made me mention it.

I have completely deleted calibre at one point and reset my device to default but to no avail...

Not a big deal, I have gotten used to sending a dummy book after every send and then deleting it.

[grizedale]

Amendment to previous, no there is not a comma after Firstname, that was my grammer writing here...

[chaley]

Originally Posted by grizedale

Amendment to previous, no there is not a comma after Firstname, that was my grammer writing here...

By any chance do you download metadata from isbndb?

[grizedale]

Originally Posted by chaley

By any chance do you download metadata from isbndb?

No, added manually, I enter the Author then click the Automatically create author_sort button

[grizedale]

For example, I have just added 12 books by Anthony Powell (Dance to the Music of Time series), disconnected and all of the series is listed as Anthony Powell, I reconnect, add a dummy book, disconnect and now the original 12 are listed as Powell, Anthony

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by chaley

By any chance do you download metadata from isbndb?

IIRC I gave him directions to create collections via the author_sort and never discussed the author_sort tweak.

[chaley]

I found a case where the described behavior would happen, but it requires the author_sort to be empty when the book is sent. I have no idea how that can happen, but perhaps it can.

The next release (today or tomorrow) has a fix. We will see if it actually fixes anything.

[chaley]

@superplinio and grizedale: Nighttime ruminations produced another scenario that makes more sense than the one above. If your Sony reader things it is in a timezone different from the one for your computer, then calibre will set the date of the book incorrectly in the Sony db. Result: the sony will 'repair' the entry, getting the information from the epub. This will change the author back to whatever it is in the book, and in passing correct the date. The next time you send a book, calibre will put the author back to author_sort, but without touching the date, so the change sticks this time.

So, my question: do you/have you ever used the Sony Reader SW to talk to your reader? If so, could it be that you last used the Reader SW in a different timezone, or back before the change to summer time? If so, then connecting Sony's SW to your device (doing nothing else) should fix the problem, at least until the winter time shift. Note that I never use Sony's SW, so I cannot say whether allowing it to connect will have other consequences, such as collection modification.

If you never intend to use Sony's SW again, then in theory doing a *hard* reset will fix the problem. A hard reset restores the reader to factory defaults, including erasing all content and device authorization. The factory-provided books will be erased and not restored.

The procedure for the 300 can be found at http://support.sony-europe.com/compu...n_GB&m=PRS-300. I tried it up to the point where it asked if I was certain. Instructions for the PRS-600 are at this site: http://support.sony-europe.com/compu...n_GB&m=PRS-600