Formatting looks off on txt and rtf files - Page 2

Crono · 10-04-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gbdesai

Thanks for the ideas, trying now...

Did that work for you gbdesai? Just curious.

slayda · 10-04-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Curry Udon

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I currently have a bunch of ebooks in .rtf and .txt but a lot of them display all wacky on the Sony.

-Hard return paragraph spacing is not correct or does not exist at all
-Justification is off in some areas
-Word wrap is not working correctly or appearing when it should not
-Page breaks are not occuring in the correct places
-Some text is garbled and or corrupted

Could you save a single page or two of one of these files and upload it for the rest of us to see exactly what you have? It may help trouble shooting.

jm ervin · 10-26-2006, 08:34 PM

And I'll bet that zooming on the device may appear to sort-of help in some cases, but there is still word spacing funkiness.

I find that the Reader does not like DOS-style CR/LF end-of-line markers in text files and renders TXT files in the way you have described. I have tested this using both TXT files written directly to an SD as well as loaded via the Connect software's import feature. You can test by stripping out the CR/LF EOL sequences with a text editor and reloading them onto the Reader.
Perhaps this is due to the Windows-only Connect application and the Linux-based Reader. Whatever the cause, it is irritating.

UPDATE:

So much for my previous CR/LF comments.
As it happens all of my TXT and RTF jaggy line formatting issues are due to hard returns. Some of my RTFs had hard returns after each 'sentence' element, some didn't. Those without render nicely on the Reader. No surprise. Same thing with TXT.
At least for myself, hard-return culling (similar to that used in the macros described earlier in the thread) works like a charm.

Bob Russell · 10-26-2006, 09:29 PM

If I'm reading your situation correctly this may be of help:

Here's how I prepared Rtf files wrt to jagged end of lines...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...0958#post40958

It uses MS Word mass replace to get rid of extraneous paragraph marks in the rtf file.

Also you can highlight all the text (in MS Word) and use ctrl-shft > to increase the font size until it's about 18 or 20 and set it to Arial or Times New Roman. And you can choose full justification to get clean margins on both sides.

Use right click and "font" to see what size some particular highlighted text is.

I am pretty happy with the way documents are turning out that way. Haven't decided whether I like a blank line between paragraphs... seems too spacious, but without it, it seems a little crowded. But no big deal either way for me.

gdxf · 10-26-2006, 11:37 PM

The font size of my rtf files are too small for reading comfortably on the Sony reader. I want to set the font size to 18 in multiple rtf files at one instance instead of opening each file and setting the font size one by one, is there a way I can do this? Your help is very much appreciated.

WilliamG · 10-27-2006, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Russell

If I'm reading your situation correctly this may be of help:

Here's how I prepared Rtf files wrt to jagged end of lines...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...0958#post40958

It uses MS Word mass replace to get rid of extraneous paragraph marks in the rtf file.

Also you can highlight all the text (in MS Word) and use ctrl-shft > to increase the font size until it's about 18 or 20 and set it to Arial or Times New Roman. And you can choose full justification to get clean margins on both sides.

Use right click and "font" to see what size some particular highlighted text is.

I am pretty happy with the way documents are turning out that way. Haven't decided whether I like a blank line between paragraphs... seems too spacious, but without it, it seems a little crowded. But no big deal either way for me.

I tried every suggestion in this thread, to no avail.

I tried your "replacing all" in your other thread, but then there are no paragraphs at all. Just a constant stream of text.

Any other ideas on how to fix the line breaks in RTFs?

*EDIT*

It really does seem like some .lit files coverted to .rtf behave better than others. Wonder why....? Some of mine are almost perfect, with only a few lines messed up, whereas some are awful.

WilliamG · 10-27-2006, 01:56 PM

Also, how do you set the margin sizes correctly? I'd like a little more white-space to the left and right of my text on my .rtfs. I can edit the margin sizes in Microsoft Word, but they're not displayed on the Reader.

*sigh* Thanks guys/girls.

NatCh · 10-27-2006, 03:15 PM

It seems to default to a particular margin size for RTF -- that is, the margin settings in the file don't seem to make a difference.

If you want more margin, the only things that I know of at the moment which allow that are LRF and PDF, both of which have their other drawbacks.

WilliamG · 10-27-2006, 03:40 PM

I got the margin for the right ok using Book Designer, but no matter what I do, the space between the top of the Reader and the first line remains the same, and I can't seem to adjust the left margin, either.

Gah!

NatCh · 10-27-2006, 03:44 PM

Ah. You'll probably notice a bit more space at the bottom of the screen than you might like. It may be hard-coded, there was some discussion of that early on, and I don't think anyone came up with anything.

WilliamG · 10-27-2006, 07:31 PM

This formatting thing is driving me nuts. I can't see to get RTFs the way I want them. Grrrrr!!

10-26-2006, 08:34 PM	#18
jm ervin Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: US Device: PRS-500	CR/LF And I'll bet that zooming on the device may appear to sort-of help in some cases, but there is still word spacing funkiness. I find that the Reader does not like DOS-style CR/LF end-of-line markers in text files and renders TXT files in the way you have described. I have tested this using both TXT files written directly to an SD as well as loaded via the Connect software's import feature. You can test by stripping out the CR/LF EOL sequences with a text editor and reloading them onto the Reader. Perhaps this is due to the Windows-only Connect application and the Linux-based Reader. Whatever the cause, it is irritating. UPDATE: So much for my previous CR/LF comments. As it happens all of my TXT and RTF jaggy line formatting issues are due to hard returns. Some of my RTFs had hard returns after each 'sentence' element, some didn't. Those without render nicely on the Reader. No surprise. Same thing with TXT. At least for myself, hard-return culling (similar to that used in the macros described earlier in the thread) works like a charm. Last edited by jm ervin; 10-27-2006 at 03:08 AM.

10-27-2006, 01:56 PM	#22
WilliamG Addict Posts: 307 Karma: 60998 Join Date: Sep 2006	Also, how do you set the margin sizes correctly? I'd like a little more white-space to the left and right of my text on my .rtfs. I can edit the margin sizes in Microsoft Word, but they're not displayed on the Reader. sigh Thanks guys/girls. Last edited by WilliamG; 10-27-2006 at 01:59 PM.

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10-26-2006, 09:29 PM	#19
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	If I'm reading your situation correctly this may be of help: Here's how I prepared Rtf files wrt to jagged end of lines... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...0958#post40958 It uses MS Word mass replace to get rid of extraneous paragraph marks in the rtf file. Also you can highlight all the text (in MS Word) and use ctrl-shft > to increase the font size until it's about 18 or 20 and set it to Arial or Times New Roman. And you can choose full justification to get clean margins on both sides. Use right click and "font" to see what size some particular highlighted text is. I am pretty happy with the way documents are turning out that way. Haven't decided whether I like a blank line between paragraphs... seems too spacious, but without it, it seems a little crowded. But no big deal either way for me.

10-26-2006, 11:37 PM	#20
gdxf Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 27 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: Sony Reader PRS-500	The font size of my rtf files are too small for reading comfortably on the Sony reader. I want to set the font size to 18 in multiple rtf files at one instance instead of opening each file and setting the font size one by one, is there a way I can do this? Your help is very much appreciated.

10-27-2006, 03:15 PM	#23
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	It seems to default to a particular margin size for RTF -- that is, the margin settings in the file don't seem to make a difference. If you want more margin, the only things that I know of at the moment which allow that are LRF and PDF, both of which have their other drawbacks.

10-27-2006, 03:40 PM	#24
WilliamG Addict Posts: 307 Karma: 60998 Join Date: Sep 2006	I got the margin for the right ok using Book Designer, but no matter what I do, the space between the top of the Reader and the first line remains the same, and I can't seem to adjust the left margin, either. Gah!

10-27-2006, 03:44 PM	#25
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Ah. You'll probably notice a bit more space at the bottom of the screen than you might like. It may be hard-coded, there was some discussion of that early on, and I don't think anyone came up with anything.

10-27-2006, 07:31 PM	#26
WilliamG Addict Posts: 307 Karma: 60998 Join Date: Sep 2006	This formatting thing is driving me nuts. I can't see to get RTFs the way I want them. Grrrrr!!

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