Propose an explanation: What's the "Q" on the Sony Reader?! - Page 2

slayda · 09-28-2006, 08:29 PM

Looks like an "e" with shadow.

slayda · 09-28-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Russell

Hmm, don't know what you mean, so must be a coincidence. I've never read him, but his name does keep coming up and being recommended to me, so I really should try one of his books! I'll have to find a good one to start with.

Bob, check out the Baen Free Library http://www.baen.com/library/
There are four free John Ringo books you can download. While there check out Baen's "WebScription" ebook prices.

Alexander Turcic · 09-30-2006, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayda

Looks like an "e" with shadow.

I think you nailed it, slayda!

Randy · 09-30-2006, 01:18 PM

It is indeed an 'ae' - look in the 'About' tab under Settings - it says that "(t)he "ae" symbol is a trademark of Sony Corporation."

I see the 'a' in gray on the left and the swooping lower case 'e' in black on the right.

Still doesn't explain what it stands for. A Google search brings up this thread, and that's it regarding the mysterious "ae".

Steven Lyle Jordan · 09-30-2006, 07:29 PM

"Æ" is known as a "grapheme." According to Webster's dictionary, "æ" means "one," from Middle English roots. According to Wiki, the Latin "æ" is used like the long "i". When using the Latin-1 or Unicode character sets, the code points for Æ and æ are U+00C6 and U+00E6, respectively, or 198 and 230 in decimal.

So Sony must be using it because...

um...

uh.

...I got nothin'.

TadW · 09-30-2006, 07:36 PM

And Oxford English Dictionary sez:

æ -

(usually written as a digraph or ligature, but also, and in the earliest times, separately ae) was in OE. the symbol of a simple vowel, intermediate between a and e. When short, as in glæd, fæder, it represented orig. Teut. short a, and had the power of modern Eng. a. in man, glad; when long, as in s{aeacu}, fl{aeacu}sc, the same sound prolonged, as in a common American pronunciation of bear, hair, there. After 1100 the short æ was generally replaced by a (though sometimes by e); the long {aeacu} continued to be written æ in the 12th and early 13th c., the OE. eá passing into the same sound and symbol, but in the development of ME. this symbol died out, and was replaced by simple e or ee. Thus OE. s{aeacu}, fl{aeacu}sc, eár, eást are in Ormin and Layamon sæ, flæssh, ær, æst, but afterwards se(e, flesh, ere, eest. The symbol æ, which thus disappeared from the language in 13th c., was re-introduced in 16th c. in forms derived from Latin words with æ, and (this being the Latin symbolization of Greek {alpha}{iota}) Greek words in {alpha}{iota}; as ædify, æther. But this æ had only an etymological value, and whenever a word became thoroughly English, the æ or ae was changed into simple e as edify, ether. The æ or ae now remains, only (1) in Greek and Lat. proper names as in Æneas, Cæsar; even these, when familiar, often take e as Judea, Etna; (2) in words belonging to Roman or Gr. Antiquities as ædile, ægis; (3) in scientific or technical terms as ætiology, æstivation, phænogamous, Athenæum; these also when they become popularized take e, as phenomenon, Lyceum, museum, era.
Æ initial is thus to be looked upon as an earlier spelling of E, and will here occur only (1) in EE. words that became obsolete, before changing to e, as æ law (OE. {aeacu}), æ river (OE. eá); (2) in words directly adopted or formed from Latin and Greek which became obsolete before changing to e as ædituate; or have not changed to e because they indicate ancient things as ædile, ægis, or are technical as ægilops, ægrotant, ætiology. All other words will be found under their later form in E.

mod.Sc. form of northern ME. a, OE. án, one, used adjectively. See A adj.1
In ME. and early Sc., a was used bef. a cons., an, ane, bef. a vowel, and absolutely; in mid.Sc. ane was used in all positions and constructions; in mod.Sc. ae (the Sc. spelling of final a long) is used bef. a n. however beginning, ane only absolutely: ‘he has ae hand, only ane.’

Obs. A river, a running water.

Obs. Law, especially the law of nature, or of God; hence, legal custom, rite, marriage.

Slava · 10-01-2006, 12:38 AM

I know, I know

The one Reader to rule them all

NatCh · 10-01-2006, 02:08 PM

Interesting stuff, y'all, but the copyrighted/trademarked "AE" not "æ" -- I'm not sure we're in the right area....

Bob Russell · 10-01-2006, 04:22 PM

And "AE" is also used by Sony for AutoExposure, isn't it?

Steven Lyle Jordan · 05-26-2007, 06:16 PM

I GOT IT! I GOT IT!!!

"Alliterative Electronica"

Why... it's so simple... a child could think of it... a child could think of it...

RWood · 05-26-2007, 07:29 PM

Yet if you read the About in the CONNECT software you get the trademark notifications for the Sony (the standard lettered logo), the CONNECT logo (the purple thing), and the CONNECT Reader logo (must be the AE thing as it is the only one left.)

chesstron · 05-26-2007, 09:02 PM

Word Mark AE
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: hand-held electronic book readers with liquid crystal displays for displaying non-fictional and fictional electronic publications; computer programs for displaying, editing and managing of non-fictional and fictional electronic publications; pre-recorded integrated circuit memory cards featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles of any and all subjects; pre-recorded optical discs featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles or any and all subjects; pre-recorded magneto-optical discs featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles of any and all subjects; pre-recorded magnetic tapes featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles of any and all subjects
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Serial Number 78742172
Filing Date October 27, 2005
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Sony Kabushiki Kaisha also trading as Sony Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 6-7-35 Kitashinagawa, Shinagawa-ku Tokyo JAPAN
Attorney of Record Robert B.G. Horowitz, Esq.
Description of Mark The mark consists of a stylized combination of the letters "a" and "e".
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

NatCh · 05-26-2007, 10:10 PM

Ooooo. Nice dig up there, chesstron! And an excellent debut here at MobileRead to boot. Welcome.

A lot of folks seem to have trouble seeing the separate letters, so here's a bit of an assist, courtesy of Paint Shop Pro.

EatingPie · 05-27-2007, 01:42 AM

Awesome chesstron!

But I hate to say... I still don't get it! Why did they pick the ae symbol??

-Pie

NatCh · 05-27-2007, 01:44 AM

Must mean something to somebody.

Probably wanted to combine the ideas of some word that starts with "A" and some other word that starts with "E" or some such. Who knows with marketing types? It could be the names of children or pets.

Sir Howard's kids are named David and Harriet, so that's not it.

09-28-2006, 08:29 PM	#16
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	Looks like an "e" with shadow. Last edited by slayda; 07-15-2013 at 01:12 PM.

05-26-2007, 10:10 PM	#28
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Ooooo. Nice dig up there, chesstron! And an excellent debut here at MobileRead to boot. Welcome. A lot of folks seem to have trouble seeing the separate letters, so here's a bit of an assist, courtesy of Paint Shop Pro. Attached Thumbnails

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09-30-2006, 01:18 PM	#19
Randy Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006	It is indeed an 'ae' - look in the 'About' tab under Settings - it says that "(t)he "ae" symbol is a trademark of Sony Corporation." I see the 'a' in gray on the left and the swooping lower case 'e' in black on the right. Still doesn't explain what it stands for. A Google search brings up this thread, and that's it regarding the mysterious "ae".

09-30-2006, 07:29 PM	#20
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	"Æ" is known as a "grapheme." According to Webster's dictionary, "æ" means "one," from Middle English roots. According to Wiki, the Latin "æ" is used like the long "i". When using the Latin-1 or Unicode character sets, the code points for Æ and æ are U+00C6 and U+00E6, respectively, or 198 and 230 in decimal. So Sony must be using it because... um... uh. ...I got nothin'.

09-30-2006, 07:36 PM	#21
TadW Uebermensch Posts: 2,583 Karma: 1094606 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Device: Kindle	And Oxford English Dictionary sez: æ - (usually written as a digraph or ligature, but also, and in the earliest times, separately ae) was in OE. the symbol of a simple vowel, intermediate between a and e. When short, as in glæd, fæder, it represented orig. Teut. short a, and had the power of modern Eng. a. in man, glad; when long, as in s{aeacu}, fl{aeacu}sc, the same sound prolonged, as in a common American pronunciation of bear, hair, there. After 1100 the short æ was generally replaced by a (though sometimes by e); the long {aeacu} continued to be written æ in the 12th and early 13th c., the OE. eá passing into the same sound and symbol, but in the development of ME. this symbol died out, and was replaced by simple e or ee. Thus OE. s{aeacu}, fl{aeacu}sc, eár, eást are in Ormin and Layamon sæ, flæssh, ær, æst, but afterwards se(e, flesh, ere, eest. The symbol æ, which thus disappeared from the language in 13th c., was re-introduced in 16th c. in forms derived from Latin words with æ, and (this being the Latin symbolization of Greek {alpha}{iota}) Greek words in {alpha}{iota}; as ædify, æther. But this æ had only an etymological value, and whenever a word became thoroughly English, the æ or ae was changed into simple e as edify, ether. The æ or ae now remains, only (1) in Greek and Lat. proper names as in Æneas, Cæsar; even these, when familiar, often take e as Judea, Etna; (2) in words belonging to Roman or Gr. Antiquities as ædile, ægis; (3) in scientific or technical terms as ætiology, æstivation, phænogamous, Athenæum; these also when they become popularized take e, as phenomenon, Lyceum, museum, era. Æ initial is thus to be looked upon as an earlier spelling of E, and will here occur only (1) in EE. words that became obsolete, before changing to e, as æ law (OE. {aeacu}), æ river (OE. eá); (2) in words directly adopted or formed from Latin and Greek which became obsolete before changing to e as ædituate; or have not changed to e because they indicate ancient things as ædile, ægis, or are technical as ægilops, ægrotant, ætiology. All other words will be found under their later form in E. mod.Sc. form of northern ME. a, OE. án, one, used adjectively. See A adj.1 In ME. and early Sc., a was used bef. a cons., an, ane, bef. a vowel, and absolutely; in mid.Sc. ane was used in all positions and constructions; in mod.Sc. ae (the Sc. spelling of final a long) is used bef. a n. however beginning, ane only absolutely: ‘he has ae hand, only ane.’ Obs. A river, a running water. Obs. Law, especially the law of nature, or of God; hence, legal custom, rite, marriage.

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Slava Addict Posts: 285 Karma: 129 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New England Device: PRS-500 · iPad · K3	I know, I know The one Reader to rule them all

10-01-2006, 02:08 PM	#23
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Interesting stuff, y'all, but the copyrighted/trademarked "AE" not "æ" -- I'm not sure we're in the right area....

10-01-2006, 04:22 PM	#24
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	And "AE" is also used by Sony for AutoExposure, isn't it?

05-26-2007, 06:16 PM	#25
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	I GOT IT! I GOT IT!!! "Alliterative Electronica" Why... it's so simple... a child could think of it... a child could think of it...

05-26-2007, 07:29 PM	#26
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	Yet if you read the About in the CONNECT software you get the trademark notifications for the Sony (the standard lettered logo), the CONNECT logo (the purple thing), and the CONNECT Reader logo (must be the AE thing as it is the only one left.)

05-26-2007, 09:02 PM	#27
chesstron Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2007	Word Mark AE Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: hand-held electronic book readers with liquid crystal displays for displaying non-fictional and fictional electronic publications; computer programs for displaying, editing and managing of non-fictional and fictional electronic publications; pre-recorded integrated circuit memory cards featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles of any and all subjects; pre-recorded optical discs featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles or any and all subjects; pre-recorded magneto-optical discs featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles of any and all subjects; pre-recorded magnetic tapes featuring non-fictional and fictional electronic publications, namely, books, magazines and articles of any and all subjects Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM Serial Number 78742172 Filing Date October 27, 2005 Current Filing Basis 1B Original Filing Basis 1B Owner (APPLICANT) Sony Kabushiki Kaisha also trading as Sony Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 6-7-35 Kitashinagawa, Shinagawa-ku Tokyo JAPAN Attorney of Record Robert B.G. Horowitz, Esq. Description of Mark The mark consists of a stylized combination of the letters "a" and "e". Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

05-27-2007, 01:42 AM	#29
EatingPie Blueberry! Posts: 888 Karma: 133343 Join Date: Mar 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500 (RIP); PRS-600 (Good Riddance); PRS-505; PRS-650; PRS-350	Awesome chesstron! But I hate to say... I still don't get it! Why did they pick the ae symbol?? -Pie

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05-27-2007, 01:44 AM	#30
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Must mean something to somebody. Probably wanted to combine the ideas of some word that starts with "A" and some other word that starts with "E" or some such. Who knows with marketing types? It could be the names of children or pets. Sir Howard's kids are named David and Harriet, so that's not it.