The iDS - Is it about time iRex started offering some content? - Page 2

Bob Russell · 09-28-2006, 06:56 AM

More than 20 books in a month?! All I can think to say is "WOW!"
That's like a book a day almost. Unbelievable!

Riocaz · 09-28-2006, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TadW

Can you do this, even with the slow page refresh of E Ink displays?

That was on my iLiad!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Russell

More than 20 books in a month?! All I can think to say is "WOW!"
That's like a book a day almost. Unbelievable!

More like a book every day and a half.

And most of my reading is done on the journey to and from work which is close to 3 hours a day (and maybe another hour or so before bed).

And I still found time to complete all the missions on MarioKart DS :-)

Bob Russell · 09-28-2006, 07:29 AM

Wow. I'm jealous. My commute is almost an hour each way but I'm driving so no e-books for me!

Riocaz · 09-28-2006, 08:00 AM

Yeah it's one good thing about the underground :-)

jæd · 09-28-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Riocaz

Yeah it's one good thing about the underground :-)

Have you considered moving closer to work...?

Thats, what, a 90 min journey each way, so you must be going nearly the whole length of a line, and possibly several zones...

Riocaz · 09-28-2006, 09:03 AM

jæd: You think I do that journey for fun?!?!

I live in North London, and work down past Canary Wharf (Specifically Barnet to Crossharbour).

If I moved closer, I wouldn't be able to afford a shoebox. Not to mention I live near my family, moving here would make visiting them tedious. To say the least.

doctorow · 09-28-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Riocaz

If I moved closer, I wouldn't be able to afford a shoebox.

You could always sell your iLiad. It's probably worth two shoeboxes.

VillageReader · 09-28-2006, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Russell

More than 20 books in a month?! All I can think to say is "WOW!"
That's like a book a day almost. Unbelievable!

Yeah, I've only done twelve in September (and will finish the 13th today).

Which is a good reason for our buddies at iRex to get the DRM issue resolved IMHO.

Alexander Turcic · 09-28-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty1024

They've already said on their forum that they've been blown off by Microsoft and Adobe. Mobipocket is now in Amazon's pocket, and we've all seen the pictures of the Amazon e-ink reader right?

Were they really turned away by Microsoft and Adobe? I find this difficult to believe. Both are trying to push they formats, and why should they not provide the necessary DRM infrastructure to a third party like iRex? In fact, I think everyone can license the technology from Microsoft and also from Adobe. So why not iRex?

Microsoft Digital Asset Server (DAS):

Microsoft Reader eBooks are protected by the Microsoft Digital Asset Server (DAS)—the leading Digital Rights Management (DRM) solution for the distribution of eBooks. DAS enables consumers to download personalized, tamper-proof, and copy-protected digital books from publishers and resellers.

Microsoft designed DAS specifically to meet the needs of the emerging eBook industry. DAS is available to interested publishers and resellers through the Digital Rights solution providers listed in the Partners section.

Microsoft Digital Rights Solution Providers:

The following companies offer digital rights management services ranging from retail site hosting and document conversion to credit card clearing and full e-commerce solutions:

OverDrive (United States)
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Dibi (Germany)
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Elib (Sweden)
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mori · 09-28-2006, 12:31 PM

Hello all, I have recently bought an iLiad (which still works fine *knocks on wood*) and I have been following the irex forum and this forum for awhile and finally decided to make a post so here I go.

I think we are barking at the wrong tree here. iRex only offers an eReader not ebooks.

Look how easy it was to make content for the iLiad by Manybooks.net ... so BAEN books or Fictionwise could easily offer their non drm content in PDFs for the iLiad.
Maybe its time to bark up on that tree...

Some iRex rep said on the iRex forum that one of the major ebook content providers would offer iLiad content in the near future (Mobipocket? they been in talks for awhile now) I assume that effort comes from Mobipocket and not iRex because I dont see iRex or Sony for that matter develope a viewer for each possible ebook type (Mobipocket; Msreader, ...). Thats why Sony made their own format (which i dont think is a good solution in LONG term).

What we really need is a common ebook format (like the mp3 for audio) but that seems to be an endless discussion and it looks like the publishers are missing the train soon if you see all the eReaders hitting the market.
I guess it will be up to the community

Anyway atm I am a very happy pirate (yes i get my ebooks via illegal channels); and I will continue to be untill ebooks are offered without DRM.

For those who crave to read any of the latest ebooks on the iLiad send me a pm and i'll mark the x on your map

bowerbird · 09-28-2006, 12:37 PM

rlauzon said:
> Nope. I vote against DRM with my wallet.

that's the only thing that will convince the capitalists.

acquiescing to d.r.m. to get "bestsellers" is a mistake
that will only encourage the greedsters to pursue it.
sending the message loudly and clearly that d.r.m.
means we won't buy their product is the only answer.

-bowerbird

Alexander Turcic · 09-28-2006, 12:42 PM

The problem is that my life is too short to categorically boycott DRM. By the time publishers turn away from DRM, my eyes will have deteriorated to a point that I cannot read any more books.

VillageReader · 09-28-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Russell

Wow. I'm jealous. My commute is almost an hour each way but I'm driving so no e-books for me!

Pssst. Audiobooks. Lots of libraries have them.

rlauzon · 09-28-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

The problem is that my life is too short to categorically boycott DRM. By the time publishers turn away from DRM, my eyes will have deteriorated to a point that I cannot read any more books.

Some publishers have already started. And the rest will have no choice but to change.

After people get their eBooks through non-legal channels enough times they will ask why they are paying for them in the first place. That won't be a good thing.

DHer · 09-28-2006, 02:41 PM

it's an old story.

we've all seen how the music industry lost the fight for the consumers because pirates offered the content cheaper, faster and more convenient.

and we see how sugarbread and whipes don't work, because people, when they see that there's an alternative to artificial scarcity, well, they just don't look back. Which is, somehow, a real pity, because someone still has to produce the content. And proofread/record.

Somehow the concept must change from buying to own something physical to paying the creator for the work.

View Poll Results: Should iRex hurry up with the iDS?
Yes! We need a way to legally get books for our Iliad!	23	76.67%
No! I buy the paper book and scan it!	5	16.67%
No! I buy a DRM ebook and rip and reformat it for the Iliad!	0	0%
No! I read only copyright-free books from gutenberg	2	6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

09-28-2006, 09:03 AM	#21
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	jæd: You think I do that journey for fun?!?! I live in North London, and work down past Canary Wharf (Specifically Barnet to Crossharbour). If I moved closer, I wouldn't be able to afford a shoebox. Not to mention I live near my family, moving here would make visiting them tedious. To say the least. Last edited by Riocaz; 09-28-2006 at 09:09 AM.

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09-28-2006, 06:56 AM	#16
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	More than 20 books in a month?! All I can think to say is "WOW!" That's like a book a day almost. Unbelievable!

09-28-2006, 07:29 AM	#18
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	Wow. I'm jealous. My commute is almost an hour each way but I'm driving so no e-books for me!

09-28-2006, 08:00 AM	#19
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	Yeah it's one good thing about the underground :-)

09-28-2006, 12:31 PM	#25
mori Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: France, Nice Device: iRex iLiad	Hello all, I have recently bought an iLiad (which still works fine knocks on wood) and I have been following the irex forum and this forum for awhile and finally decided to make a post so here I go. I think we are barking at the wrong tree here. iRex only offers an eReader not ebooks. Look how easy it was to make content for the iLiad by Manybooks.net ... so BAEN books or Fictionwise could easily offer their non drm content in PDFs for the iLiad. Maybe its time to bark up on that tree... Some iRex rep said on the iRex forum that one of the major ebook content providers would offer iLiad content in the near future (Mobipocket? they been in talks for awhile now) I assume that effort comes from Mobipocket and not iRex because I dont see iRex or Sony for that matter develope a viewer for each possible ebook type (Mobipocket; Msreader, ...). Thats why Sony made their own format (which i dont think is a good solution in LONG term). What we really need is a common ebook format (like the mp3 for audio) but that seems to be an endless discussion and it looks like the publishers are missing the train soon if you see all the eReaders hitting the market. I guess it will be up to the community Anyway atm I am a very happy pirate (yes i get my ebooks via illegal channels); and I will continue to be untill ebooks are offered without DRM. For those who crave to read any of the latest ebooks on the iLiad send me a pm and i'll mark the x on your map

09-28-2006, 12:37 PM	#26
bowerbird Banned Posts: 269 Karma: -273 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: los angeles	rlauzon said: > Nope. I vote against DRM with my wallet. that's the only thing that will convince the capitalists. acquiescing to d.r.m. to get "bestsellers" is a mistake that will only encourage the greedsters to pursue it. sending the message loudly and clearly that d.r.m. means we won't buy their product is the only answer. -bowerbird

09-28-2006, 12:42 PM	#27
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	The problem is that my life is too short to categorically boycott DRM. By the time publishers turn away from DRM, my eyes will have deteriorated to a point that I cannot read any more books.

09-28-2006, 02:41 PM	#30
DHer Addict Posts: 261 Karma: 156 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iliad	it's an old story. we've all seen how the music industry lost the fight for the consumers because pirates offered the content cheaper, faster and more convenient. and we see how sugarbread and whipes don't work, because people, when they see that there's an alternative to artificial scarcity, well, they just don't look back. Which is, somehow, a real pity, because someone still has to produce the content. And proofread/record. Somehow the concept must change from buying to own something physical to paying the creator for the work.

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