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Personally, I'm quite astounded in how someone would knowingly with-hold information that can only be used by Irex to make the product better and more useful to all. Not to mention withholding this information to other developers who might be able to find work arounds... Last edited by jęd; 10-03-2006 at 05:14 PM. |
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What if iRex had hired scotty1024 to develop the iLiad via OSS, what would be different?
First off, my #1 priority would have been patches to X to produce an iLiad simulator. Right number of pixels X and Y, correct PPI if people cared, and the same API provided on the iLiad to trigger updates to the X display (think about it, how do they push the changes to the e-ink panel, somewhere in your code you call something that says "Update e-ink now" right???) A skin in the window with buttons to push with a mouse that produced the same events as the buttons on the iLiad. Second, participation in Kernel/Minimo/xpdf development communities. I'd have developers assigned to participate in all those forums and get iLiad source checked in. No freakin' iLiad tar ball, but iLiad build paths that could be checked out and built by developers and used under the X simulator. When people had feedback, and there would be far more people than just those with iLiads. After all, people could build the X code and run the iLiadian xpdf et al... My developers would work through the existing communities to process those suggestions into the code bases. Instead of developers fruit-lessly bashing their skulls into desks and eeking out 5% to 10% improvements in power? I'd be kicking their metaphorical asses to get into the developer community and ask for help: "I'm trying to power down a XXXX but YYY is happening. Any one else seen that?" I would have been leveraging the OSS community for as many man hours as I could mooch to help get the iLiad up to speed as quickly as possible. Bugzilla, Wiki, Subversion and a PHPBoard for my public developers... along with iLiad t-shirts, coasters, mugs and any other thing I could beg, borrow or steal out of the marketing department as a seducement for contributed code. Contribute enough significant items, I'd be going to management to ask for a free or subsidized iLiad for you. I would have had maybe one kernel developer on ICE with the actual hardware. Application developers would have soft developer iLiad's with ROMulators and Desktops with the X simulator. So no, no bugs for iRex, and I don't feel bad about that, I feel bad about what iRex could have done, and where we could have been today. ![]() And I really don't feel they are the best people to be fixing other people's code at this point. After all, most of the code in the iLiad doesn't belong to iRex. What I'd rather do when I find a bug is just check out the X simulator, the minimo code, and fix/submit the bug to the minimo project. Let iRex collect the new sources once every 2 or 3 months and push out a new OS release. If you want to submit bugs to iRex, that's your choice. |
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Gee... I don't know enough to evaluate what you've suggested Scotty, but you've got my vote for iRex to check their budget and find the funds to hire you!
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My attitude towards the Illiad is that perhaps they could've done things differently, and perhaps there are areas that could've been improved, but they're calling the shots and *this* is what we've got to work with. No point crying over spilt milk...! Lets just do the best we can with a very good, ground-breaking platform...! Quote:
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Actually I'm just not wasting my time right now...
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But you know, its still not too late for them to push out that X simulator... ![]() We could be compiling code under Linux, sharpening our apps until the iLiad compiler chain is released... Anyway, enough day dreaming, onwards mighty proxy server! |
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And if I were the Minimo developer? I'd be getting a bit upset with iRex for a couple reasons.
1. Sony Reader, if I had the patches back from iRex I could be creating a Sony reader minimo. Lots of sizzle, good exposure and an existing Librie developer chain to get started with now... 2. I'm reading about minimo crashing on the iLiad. I'm thinking minimo may get some negative publicity about its stability and readiness to be a browser for a Sony Reader. If anyone can really put the screws to iRex it would be the minimo team itself. After all, GPL is not copyright free, the minimo team owns the code, not iRex. If iRex makes them look bad enough they can yank iRex's chain: hard. Hmm, submitting bugs to the minimo project might be a good way to turn up the heat on iRex... What say you fellow iLiadians? Is it time to turn up the heat? |
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It has been my experience that new opportunities can change FAQ entries and previously laid plans.
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