Entourage eDGe First Impressions - Page 2

Spiritwnd · 02-27-2010, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulckennedy

... I see lots of possibilities with this 2 screen format. The ability to have 2 documents open from the same library At The Same time presents a world of possibilities. Books, magazines, and Newspapers can highly expand with the interactive capabilities...

Very interesting concept that might well be a two-point-oh add in the software adaptation for the device.
It appears to me that the company is very forward with communications and might be equally as forward regarding concepts. With Andriod at the heart of the device, it is going to be wide open so that when the SDK is out perhaps we will see the beginning of the "Android-Edge apps".

paulckennedy · 02-27-2010, 09:44 AM

I am not saying to wait on a 2.0 version but instead to see what happens when the sdk gets to outside developers. Ths thing is an Android device which means that the eink side is simply new hardware programable from the sdk. This is where this thiing can get wild. As android dev I can immediately work with the lcd side. It is the eink implementation that I need guidance on controling. That is where the sdk will shoot it out of the park.

Spiritwnd · 02-27-2010, 10:37 AM

I agree with the don't wait and SDK subject matter.

However, we are now

and in dire need of having the moderators give Edge it's own forums with a dev forum where we can resume this.
As a developer, Edge will be my second Android device but my first desire to start playing with Android development - especially if I can design apps for that eInk screen.

paulckennedy · 02-27-2010, 10:41 AM

You asked. I answered. For first impressions, my comments were spot on and in MY opinion ON TOPIC.

Spiritwnd · 02-27-2010, 10:45 AM

WE (I am equally as guilty) got off topic when we started dreaming about potential Dev for the item.
YOU are right that your first impression are on topic.

Sorry - thought I made it clear when I said we needed a dev forum to continue the discussion.

zetareticuli · 02-27-2010, 10:47 AM

Guys, I agree with everything Paul mentioned earlier in his "quick review". I am impressed. Excellent, excellent device. No doubt about it. Excellent for a first release device. Very, very impressive. Very fast eInk. Page turns, zooming, PDF display capability, technical PDFs display very well. Fastest eInk refresh I have seen so far. One big negative is the weight. It is much heavier than I expected. I will be posting a full review later on along with some pictures.

mgm1979 · 02-27-2010, 01:31 PM

Good point, Z...in regards to a first generation device. Any tech-geek will tell you about the hardships and shoot/miss experiences with first of its kind gadgets, especially cutting edge technology like this. enTourage has CLEARLY done their homework with this one. While my fiance and I have both noticed some laggy software - THAT is the only negative we can find, and we ARE looking for faults! Weight aside, this thing is absolutely incredible, and the folks in VA are to be commended for bringing such a quality device to market ON TIME...the laggy software is sure to be cured with software updates, which I expect (based on my customer service experiences so far) to arrive fast and furious, once they get through this huge launch rush.

We are BOTH more than satisfied with our investments, and HIGHLY recommend anyone contemplating an order to jump on the bandwagon - as Paul has said, this thing has LOADS of possibilities once things REALLY get moving with inside/outside developers.

soilwork · 02-27-2010, 01:39 PM

It sounds very good so far, but I wonder how long the battery will last while using e-ink screen with some occasional annotation. Could some of the owners give us some rough estimates?

repods · 02-27-2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgm1979

Good point, Z...in regards to a first generation device. Any tech-geek will tell you about the hardships and shoot/miss experiences with first of its kind gadgets, especially cutting edge technology like this. enTourage has CLEARLY done their homework with this one. While my fiance and I have both noticed some laggy software - THAT is the only negative we can find, and we ARE looking for faults! Weight aside, this thing is absolutely incredible, and the folks in VA are to be commended for bringing such a quality device to market ON TIME...the laggy software is sure to be cured with software updates, which I expect (based on my customer service experiences so far) to arrive fast and furious, once they get through this huge launch rush.

We are BOTH more than satisfied with our investments, and HIGHLY recommend anyone contemplating an order to jump on the bandwagon - as Paul has said, this thing has LOADS of possibilities once things REALLY get moving with inside/outside developers.

well you are right but when the possibilities will be out most likely more similar devices will be on sale..
well one good thing is that now the others e-ink device makers can stop playing marketing games with customers and show their real stuff..
I guess you know who I'm talking about..

paulckennedy · 02-27-2010, 02:57 PM

I can definitely say that I miss Flash when using the web on the Edge. I definitely don't see how the iPad web experience could be any different.

scoff · 02-27-2010, 04:44 PM

I hope someone who has the eDGe would be kind of enough to check (or tell me if you know already) how it handles finding annotations. One of Entourage's youtube videos said that the table of contents will show you all the pages you've to which you've attached notes. Will it also show you all the pages you've annotated?

I would be purchasing the device for academic reading and plan to do a lot of annotation, so I'm wondering how one would go about keeping track of all the annotations.

Also, does the dictionary feature work for any languages other than English?

zetareticuli · 02-27-2010, 07:08 PM

Scoff, I will be doing this testing for you and will post the results.

cacapee · 02-27-2010, 11:06 PM

We need that sub-forum!

Zetareticuli - What would be the best way to get started with developing for android on the edge. First thing I'll be looking at is a chm reader if it doesn't already exist.

zetareticuli · 02-28-2010, 12:30 AM

The first step is to become familiar with the device itself. Use it thoroughly for a few days and discover its strengths and limitations. From there, we can create a list of items that we would like added and take it from there.

Spiritwnd · 02-28-2010, 07:27 AM

Oddly enough,the app is titled "Android CHM Ebook Reader" from HYStudio

Got mine for the G1 from the Marketplace and it is also available at androilib

It is okay, a couple of bugs but works for the most part.

-Spirit

02-27-2010, 01:39 PM	#23
soilwork useR! Posts: 299 Karma: 651 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NY Device: Onyx Boox Max 2, Kobo Libra H2O, iRiver Story HD	Battery life? It sounds very good so far, but I wonder how long the battery will last while using e-ink screen with some occasional annotation. Could some of the owners give us some rough estimates?

02-28-2010, 07:27 AM	#30
Spiritwnd Member Posts: 22 Karma: 66 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: G1, Pocketbook 301+	Android CHM EReader Oddly enough,the app is titled "Android CHM Ebook Reader" from HYStudio Got mine for the G1 from the Marketplace and it is also available at androilib It is okay, a couple of bugs but works for the most part. -Spirit

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02-27-2010, 09:44 AM	#17
paulckennedy Addict Posts: 205 Karma: 824 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Carthage, Texas Device: Apple iPad	I am not saying to wait on a 2.0 version but instead to see what happens when the sdk gets to outside developers. Ths thing is an Android device which means that the eink side is simply new hardware programable from the sdk. This is where this thiing can get wild. As android dev I can immediately work with the lcd side. It is the eink implementation that I need guidance on controling. That is where the sdk will shoot it out of the park.

02-27-2010, 10:37 AM	#18
Spiritwnd Member Posts: 22 Karma: 66 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: G1, Pocketbook 301+	I agree with the don't wait and SDK subject matter. However, we are now and in dire need of having the moderators give Edge it's own forums with a dev forum where we can resume this. As a developer, Edge will be my second Android device but my first desire to start playing with Android development - especially if I can design apps for that eInk screen.

02-27-2010, 10:41 AM	#19
paulckennedy Addict Posts: 205 Karma: 824 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Carthage, Texas Device: Apple iPad	You asked. I answered. For first impressions, my comments were spot on and in MY opinion ON TOPIC.

02-27-2010, 10:45 AM	#20
Spiritwnd Member Posts: 22 Karma: 66 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: G1, Pocketbook 301+	WE (I am equally as guilty) got off topic when we started dreaming about potential Dev for the item. YOU are right that your first impression are on topic. Sorry - thought I made it clear when I said we needed a dev forum to continue the discussion.

02-27-2010, 10:47 AM	#21
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	Guys, I agree with everything Paul mentioned earlier in his "quick review". I am impressed. Excellent, excellent device. No doubt about it. Excellent for a first release device. Very, very impressive. Very fast eInk. Page turns, zooming, PDF display capability, technical PDFs display very well. Fastest eInk refresh I have seen so far. One big negative is the weight. It is much heavier than I expected. I will be posting a full review later on along with some pictures.

02-27-2010, 01:31 PM	#22
mgm1979 Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 50 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Entourage eDGe	Good point, Z...in regards to a first generation device. Any tech-geek will tell you about the hardships and shoot/miss experiences with first of its kind gadgets, especially cutting edge technology like this. enTourage has CLEARLY done their homework with this one. While my fiance and I have both noticed some laggy software - THAT is the only negative we can find, and we ARE looking for faults! Weight aside, this thing is absolutely incredible, and the folks in VA are to be commended for bringing such a quality device to market ON TIME...the laggy software is sure to be cured with software updates, which I expect (based on my customer service experiences so far) to arrive fast and furious, once they get through this huge launch rush. We are BOTH more than satisfied with our investments, and HIGHLY recommend anyone contemplating an order to jump on the bandwagon - as Paul has said, this thing has LOADS of possibilities once things REALLY get moving with inside/outside developers.

02-27-2010, 02:57 PM	#25
paulckennedy Addict Posts: 205 Karma: 824 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Carthage, Texas Device: Apple iPad	I can definitely say that I miss Flash when using the web on the Edge. I definitely don't see how the iPad web experience could be any different.

02-27-2010, 04:44 PM	#26
scoff Enthusiast Posts: 26 Karma: 20 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: DC Device: Kindle Keyboard	I hope someone who has the eDGe would be kind of enough to check (or tell me if you know already) how it handles finding annotations. One of Entourage's youtube videos said that the table of contents will show you all the pages you've to which you've attached notes. Will it also show you all the pages you've annotated? I would be purchasing the device for academic reading and plan to do a lot of annotation, so I'm wondering how one would go about keeping track of all the annotations. Also, does the dictionary feature work for any languages other than English?

02-27-2010, 07:08 PM	#27
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	Scoff, I will be doing this testing for you and will post the results.

02-27-2010, 11:06 PM	#28
cacapee Connoisseur Posts: 77 Karma: 1393 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Santa Monica Device: prs-500	We need that sub-forum! Zetareticuli - What would be the best way to get started with developing for android on the edge. First thing I'll be looking at is a chm reader if it doesn't already exist.

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02-28-2010, 12:30 AM	#29
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	The first step is to become familiar with the device itself. Use it thoroughly for a few days and discover its strengths and limitations. From there, we can create a list of items that we would like added and take it from there.