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Can it be done in the face of the publishers' resistance? Certainly-check out Hollywood contracts. Many of those cede partial control to the actor. Not always final control, but enough to give them a voice in the decision making. Based on comments such as yours, it appears the authors have signed away that voice-which means they really don't care & maybe deserve the negative comments & ratings. |
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This price war IS going to effect authors. If something costs more, I expect more.
- restaurants - hotels - automobiles A $15 eBook needs to be FANTASTIC to get even 4 stars from me. A $2 Indie author can get 4 stars much easier and can even get 5. Author ratings will drop. |
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Who is it who has been given the lifetime + 70 monopoly? Who is it who shares all the royalties? Who is it who 'creates' such a shoddy product that the editor is supposedly forced to spend a small fortune to make readable? Who indeed! |
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In one sense, I agree with him that it is unreasonable to expect that everything should be instant and cheap - he should be entitled to try to earn a living from his efforts. On the other hand, consumers have a right to expect a quality (proof-read!), fair priced (below paper, if not lots below), convenient-to-access ebook. I took him to mean "people expect everything for free but I need to make a living", for which I have some sympathy, but I think that it's not, in fact, what people expect. People expect a quality, fair-priced, convenient service. |
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I would be fine with a price reduction, but $9.99 after a year is just too high. I agree with the article - there are too many good books out there. So many books, so little time - I will just read something else.
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Great article and sums up what many consumers are thinking.
The problem for publishers is that consumers are spolit for choice. We expect the Internet to price goods competitively, so when we see ephemeral objects like ebooks (which are digital data a few MBs in size), we EXPECT them to be cheaper than a real world item. Some publishers want us to pay more for an e-book (with less rights) than a traditional paper book you might find discounted in the local walmart. Consumers are smart enough to reject these publishers and their poor treatment of consumers. I can't quite fathom how publishers think we should pay more for DRMed e-books with incredibly low manufacturing costs and which give us less rights than a paper book. |
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That's refreshing, looks like Baen is not worried that ebook sales will reduce hardback sales... ![]() What I also mean is that there are lots of options for good books out there, one way or another the publishers monopoly is weaker, unless you are a die-hard fan of some particular author there is always a cheaper option of an equally good book. If ebooks thrive I wouldn't like to be in the publishers shoes for the next few years... It's gonna be very hard, but I must say that, considering the historical precedents, they aren't being very smart... maggie* Last edited by maggie*; 02-11-2010 at 05:45 PM. |
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The thing I think most people are forgetting is that publishers would probably be perfectly happy if you never bought another ebook again. I would expect that they would rather have ebooks die out and stay out of the mainstream so they can continue on like they have in the past with paper books. If ebooks become honestly mainstream and people get used to all the convenience of reading ebooks, piracy will probably be a bigger issue/concern for them. It also disrupts their business model and will basically cause a big upheaval.
If ebooks are only a small percentage of their business now...sabotaging them might keep it that way so they can cling longer to the old models. I think that would be really shortsighted but it wouldn't surprise me if that kind of backwards thinking were at play here. |
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http://www.baen.com/scheduleXML.asp#January%202010 http://www.webscription.net/p-1105-w...scription.aspx They published six paperbooks in January - one hardback, two trade paperbacks and three mass market paperbacks. Total RRP: $74.97 They published the same six as ebooks, and also threw in one from their back catalogue, all for $15. Multiple formats. DRM-free. So - available before (about two weeks) the paper books, and at 1/5th the price. It makes you wonder how they sell any paper books at all ![]() And the ebooks aren't loss-leaders or marketing promotions. Baen make money from the ebooks too. Amazing. |
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On the downside, because it is an advance copy, it's still in the process of being edited, so you're going to run across typos, grammatical errors, continuity errors, etc. But, if you're one of those hardcore fans who absolutely must have it now, it's the proverbial "bees knees." However, once the book is ready to hit the shelves, the finished e-book is released at the usual $6 street price, and is usually available for download about a week or two before the hardcopy edition hits stores. So, in this case, eARC is not coming out at a higher price the same time as the hardcover like most publishers are proposing -- it's coming out at a higher price months before the hardcover even hits stores. |
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I've got more pbooks than I can probably read/reread in what's left of my life.
With those and the ebooks I've already purchased and those available here and elsewhere for free, all it's going to take is self-control to not purchase another ebook for any price. I intend on making a very strong effort to do just that. Thanks MacMillan for saving me money. |
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