Something New: iRex MyScript Notes - Page 2

firekat · 08-07-2006, 10:56 PM

Does this mean that when all you super hackers/developers out there get the SDK your going to implement hand writing recognition a'la Zaurus for us non-hacker types? Pretty Pleeeze!

DHer · 08-08-2006, 03:20 AM

yeah, all we super hackers/developers will boldly go where no open source developer has gone before and develop a handwriting recognition which actually works. (the only one which works quite good even with my handwriting is microsofts tablet pc software)

ok, qtopia supports basic handwriting: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt...rm=handwriting

On the other hand, i've got nothing else to do the rest of my holidays =)

hm. when i come to think about it.
writing a mouse emulator so you can use the iliad as computer mouse and using the Microsoft handwriting recognition should be possible.

we could just use the vektor file, write a program which moves the cursor on the pc accordingly and let microsoft do all the hard work =)

scotty1024 · 08-08-2006, 03:41 AM

I'm all in favor of them spending their software development budget inside the iLiad getting the PDF viewer as efficient as possible.

Buy where possible, write the rest I say.

doctorow · 08-08-2006, 03:48 AM

Well said, scotty, and I fully agree.

scotty1024 · 08-10-2006, 11:22 AM

Well no sign of the iLiad but I got my email bright and early this morning to come collect MyScriptNotes20023.zip from them. Which I've done.

I'm told I'll get the license file in a few days.

So if you can stomach paying them for it, its just about available, and ahead of schedule.

yokos · 08-16-2006, 07:52 AM

Have a look at screenshots if you like.

I have tested recognition with "mouse writen" short German sentence.

So 2.6 has the new .irx format, which this program can read?

Alexander Turcic · 08-16-2006, 08:09 AM

Not bad. I am quite impressed that it would understand your handwriting

yokos · 08-16-2006, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Not bad. I am quite impressed that it would understand your handwriting

heh, it was hard work to write with mouse on PC

, somewhere I have a graphical pen in my cupboards, but where?

ElaHuguet · 08-16-2006, 09:05 AM

I've tested it with my iLiad (yesterday), I thought there was no way it would get my writing... not one mistake! (except my lines were going up, and it put some words on the wrong lines, my mistake).

oliverbogler · 08-16-2006, 03:56 PM

Hi everyone - I tried to purchase this, but the iRex shop wanted to charge me shipping - $40 no less. I thought it was a license for a download? Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks!

yokos · 08-17-2006, 07:31 AM

These screenshots are 2 example notes files - one in English the other in Chinese.

scstraus · 08-22-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty1024

I've used (and still have buried someplace) the Logitech Pen (ditto a CrossPad, which seems to cross paths with this software as well...) and three generations of Tablet PC's.

Sounds a lot like me

. I'll look forward to what you think of the iliad. So far from what I've seen in the videos it doesn't look like there's pressure sensitivity.

segatang · 08-23-2006, 04:22 AM

What amazing the recognization accuracy!
Will it support the tranditional Chinese in future?

klark · 05-26-2007, 07:19 AM

can someone tell me if the handwriting recognition really works on the iliad?

right now im planning to buy one. but im not sure yet. i have a vision of how it should work, but i guess that vision won't come true ;-)
i would love to take my notes at university on my iliad.

scotty1024 · 05-26-2007, 01:56 PM

IMHO the least expensive top quality college note taker you can buy is a used Newton Message Pad 2100, roughly $100 USD on eBay.

The main thing the Newton gets right for me is that it uses a roll of paper and you can yank up more paper as needed and still be able to see the notes you just took. With the iLiad you get a sheet at a time and can't see the notes you just took with out flipping back to them.

Maybe you're different but I don't like the page method the iLiad uses.

THe Newton correctly date and time stamps your notes and allows you to file them into categories: PSCI115 CALC104 etc... The iLiad can't set its clock correctly unless you live in London and has no filing ability, I mean none, nada, zip, zilch, zero, null pointer reference.

Yeah I know: WTF were they thinking?

The Newton gets a couple weeks of heavy use out of a set of those AA Lithium batteries or you can use some of the 2650mah NiMh rechargable AA's and get about a week. Plus if you go flat in class you can pop in a set of batteries and be back up. If your iLiad goes flat you're back to using paper to take notes as it doesn't have a replaceable battery or a AA battery booster dongle.

The Newton will also take audio notes if you need as well. For some reason the iLiad has no microphone yet iRex had us pay for a chip inside with a microphone input and all the stuff needed to digitize it.

The Newton has a built in cover that flips over the screen sideways (like a book) and can be locked back behind the unit when taking notes. The iLiad has no cover to protect its delicate e-Ink panel so you must use a case, which is not half as nice as a built in flip cover in my opinion.

The Newton has rubber feet that hold it nicely to a desk whilst taking notes. The iLiad has no rubber feet and tends to rock slightly while scribbling, which I find distracting. The iLiad also tends to slip around on the desk during writing, which I also find distracting. Yes, you can bring a "rubber" mat or find a case that acts like a writing mat but you'd think iRex could have spent the $.25 to put rubber feet on the unit. I haven't been able to find any rubber feet that stick well to the rubberized case material (if iRex had designed it for feet it would have had spots for the feet that didn't have the rubberized texture.)

You also get calendaring, todo's and address book functions with the Newton, all generally handy for college students.

The Newton can convert hand written notes to text itself which task you can perform when you have spare moments: riding bus, eating, bathroom, watching TV, boring lectures etc... stick in a Wifi card and beam the notes to your PC. The iLiad can't recognize its own notes, you need to buy the PC based recognizer software. The software focuses on text and doesn't do much for drawings/diagrams.

If you really have $800 USD to purchase a note taker then I'd point you to the entry level model of the Samsung Q1 Ultra UMPC with One Note 2007. One Note 2007 rocks and has many more features than a Newton. The Samsung has less battery life than an iLiad but has a replaceable battery so you can have an extra with you. You can also use real Adobe Acrobat Reader to view PDF's, including the DRM versions the iLiad can't handle. Plus the Samsung rocks a real hard drive with tons of space (compared to an iLiad) for ebooks, tunes, movies, TV, MathLab or Mathmatica etc...

08-16-2006, 07:52 AM	#21
yokos Pac-Man caught my iLiad. Posts: 807 Karma: 3595 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany; next to Baltic Sea Device: Boox Max Lumi, iRex iLiad (RIP)	Have a look at screenshots if you like. I have tested recognition with "mouse writen" short German sentence. So 2.6 has the new .irx format, which this program can read? Attached Thumbnails

08-16-2006, 03:56 PM	#25
oliverbogler Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 90 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX Device: iLiad	Shipping and MyScript notes?!? Hi everyone - I tried to purchase this, but the iRex shop wanted to charge me shipping - $40 no less. I thought it was a license for a download? Anyone else have this problem? Thanks!

08-17-2006, 07:31 AM	#26
yokos Pac-Man caught my iLiad. Posts: 807 Karma: 3595 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany; next to Baltic Sea Device: Boox Max Lumi, iRex iLiad (RIP)	These screenshots are 2 example notes files - one in English the other in Chinese. Attached Thumbnails

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08-07-2006, 10:56 PM	#16
firekat Groupie Posts: 157 Karma: 314 Join Date: May 2006	Does this mean that when all you super hackers/developers out there get the SDK your going to implement hand writing recognition a'la Zaurus for us non-hacker types? Pretty Pleeeze!

08-08-2006, 03:20 AM	#17
DHer Addict Posts: 261 Karma: 156 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iliad	yeah, all we super hackers/developers will boldly go where no open source developer has gone before and develop a handwriting recognition which actually works. (the only one which works quite good even with my handwriting is microsofts tablet pc software) ok, qtopia supports basic handwriting: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt...rm=handwriting On the other hand, i've got nothing else to do the rest of my holidays =) hm. when i come to think about it. writing a mouse emulator so you can use the iliad as computer mouse and using the Microsoft handwriting recognition should be possible. we could just use the vektor file, write a program which moves the cursor on the pc accordingly and let microsoft do all the hard work =)

08-08-2006, 03:41 AM	#18
scotty1024 Banned Posts: 1,300 Karma: 1479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Washington Device: Reader / iPhone / Librie / Kindle	I'm all in favor of them spending their software development budget inside the iLiad getting the PDF viewer as efficient as possible. Buy where possible, write the rest I say.

08-08-2006, 03:48 AM	#19
doctorow Guru Posts: 914 Karma: 3410461 Join Date: May 2004 Device: Kindle Touch	Well said, scotty, and I fully agree.

08-10-2006, 11:22 AM	#20
scotty1024 Banned Posts: 1,300 Karma: 1479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Washington Device: Reader / iPhone / Librie / Kindle	Well no sign of the iLiad but I got my email bright and early this morning to come collect MyScriptNotes20023.zip from them. Which I've done. I'm told I'll get the license file in a few days. So if you can stomach paying them for it, its just about available, and ahead of schedule.

08-16-2006, 08:09 AM	#22
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Not bad. I am quite impressed that it would understand your handwriting

08-16-2006, 09:05 AM	#24
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	I've tested it with my iLiad (yesterday), I thought there was no way it would get my writing... not one mistake! (except my lines were going up, and it put some words on the wrong lines, my mistake).

08-23-2006, 04:22 AM	#28
segatang Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 81 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taiwan Device: Kolin i-library	What amazing the recognization accuracy! Will it support the tranditional Chinese in future?

05-26-2007, 07:19 AM	#29
klark Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2007	can someone tell me if the handwriting recognition really works on the iliad? right now im planning to buy one. but im not sure yet. i have a vision of how it should work, but i guess that vision won't come true ;-) i would love to take my notes at university on my iliad.

05-26-2007, 01:56 PM	#30
scotty1024 Banned Posts: 1,300 Karma: 1479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Washington Device: Reader / iPhone / Librie / Kindle	IMHO the least expensive top quality college note taker you can buy is a used Newton Message Pad 2100, roughly $100 USD on eBay. The main thing the Newton gets right for me is that it uses a roll of paper and you can yank up more paper as needed and still be able to see the notes you just took. With the iLiad you get a sheet at a time and can't see the notes you just took with out flipping back to them. Maybe you're different but I don't like the page method the iLiad uses. THe Newton correctly date and time stamps your notes and allows you to file them into categories: PSCI115 CALC104 etc... The iLiad can't set its clock correctly unless you live in London and has no filing ability, I mean none, nada, zip, zilch, zero, null pointer reference. Yeah I know: WTF were they thinking? The Newton gets a couple weeks of heavy use out of a set of those AA Lithium batteries or you can use some of the 2650mah NiMh rechargable AA's and get about a week. Plus if you go flat in class you can pop in a set of batteries and be back up. If your iLiad goes flat you're back to using paper to take notes as it doesn't have a replaceable battery or a AA battery booster dongle. The Newton will also take audio notes if you need as well. For some reason the iLiad has no microphone yet iRex had us pay for a chip inside with a microphone input and all the stuff needed to digitize it. The Newton has a built in cover that flips over the screen sideways (like a book) and can be locked back behind the unit when taking notes. The iLiad has no cover to protect its delicate e-Ink panel so you must use a case, which is not half as nice as a built in flip cover in my opinion. The Newton has rubber feet that hold it nicely to a desk whilst taking notes. The iLiad has no rubber feet and tends to rock slightly while scribbling, which I find distracting. The iLiad also tends to slip around on the desk during writing, which I also find distracting. Yes, you can bring a "rubber" mat or find a case that acts like a writing mat but you'd think iRex could have spent the $.25 to put rubber feet on the unit. I haven't been able to find any rubber feet that stick well to the rubberized case material (if iRex had designed it for feet it would have had spots for the feet that didn't have the rubberized texture.) You also get calendaring, todo's and address book functions with the Newton, all generally handy for college students. The Newton can convert hand written notes to text itself which task you can perform when you have spare moments: riding bus, eating, bathroom, watching TV, boring lectures etc... stick in a Wifi card and beam the notes to your PC. The iLiad can't recognize its own notes, you need to buy the PC based recognizer software. The software focuses on text and doesn't do much for drawings/diagrams. If you really have $800 USD to purchase a note taker then I'd point you to the entry level model of the Samsung Q1 Ultra UMPC with One Note 2007. One Note 2007 rocks and has many more features than a Newton. The Samsung has less battery life than an iLiad but has a replaceable battery so you can have an extra with you. You can also use real Adobe Acrobat Reader to view PDF's, including the DRM versions the iLiad can't handle. Plus the Samsung rocks a real hard drive with tons of space (compared to an iLiad) for ebooks, tunes, movies, TV, MathLab or Mathmatica etc...

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