I think I'm going to return my Kindle 2 - Page 2

jimmypatrick · 02-03-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

The same geographic restrictions will apply...

Really? I thought I heard Steve-o say that he was working out deals with the carriers. Those guys do have relationships with many carriers world-wide from their experience with that phone they sell.

lene1949 · 02-04-2010, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by johnstu

Thanks,

I love the 505 but was attracted to the Kindle for the whispernet delivery and browsing and (ironically) the $9.99 book prices on the amazon store.

I have no plans to leave ereading, just the kindle. I think if I was in the US it would be the reader that would make the most sense for me but not here in the UK. I'm pretty much decided that I'm going to stick with my Sony(s) for now.

But... surely - with you owning several e-readers - you would have done your research, before buying a Kindle... I know I did! and I have only discovered e-ink in the last couple of months.

You have a Sony, which serves you well... Why even buy a Kindle in the first place?

johnstu · 02-04-2010, 06:07 AM

Hi Lene,
I did do research. I was planning to switch from the Sonys to the Kindle. The Sony still commands pretty good prices on ebay so I thought I'd be able to sell the 505 and give the 500 to a friend (after having it updated to accept epub).

I think everything changed when Apple announced the iPad and their deal with the publishers. At that point my belief that Amazon would be able to maintain the prices it was currently offering disappeared. I think the release of the iPad has given the publishers a tremendous boost in their bargaining strength with Amazon.

Having the whispernet was a major deciding factor in getting the Kindle but outside the USA that is only useful for books purchased from Amazon (because of the restriction on use of the Kindles internet browser internationally). If Amazon's books increase in cost as I feel the newly empowered publishers will demand then I will be forced to shop around more for books, which cannot be wirelessly delivered, losing the selling point of the Kindle.

I am extremely grateful to everyone who has commented on this thread and helped me sort out my thoughts. I don't want to appear negative toward the kindle, I think it's a great device, just not right for me at the moment as the replacement for the Sony 505 that I thought it would be.

kennyc · 02-04-2010, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmypatrick

Really? I thought I heard Steve-o say that he was working out deals with the carriers. Those guys do have relationships with many carriers world-wide from their experience with that phone they sell.

Maybe for the "fee" - i.e. the $2 surcharge ala international kindle, but the Geographic restrictions are governed by contracts with publishers, that's what determines whether a book is available in a particular location or not.

kennyc · 02-04-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lene1949

But... surely - with you owning several e-readers - you would have done your research, before buying a Kindle... I know I did! and I have only discovered e-ink in the last couple of months.

You have a Sony, which serves you well... Why even buy a Kindle in the first place?

After finding and loving my Sony 505, I purchased a Kindle2 for access to the Amazon bookstore which often has cheaper prices. (this was before Kindle4PC)

I've also found that I prefer reading things like Science Daily and Newspapers on the Kindle as it has much more usable navigation for jumping around from table of contents to articles and back.

dwallbaum · 02-17-2010, 04:17 PM

Well... .I kinda enjoy having Eurpoeans gripe about not getting a decent American product... the Japanese keep their good cars in country, you can't get a Polo or a SEAT in this country for anything. Virtually all the good electronics are first available overseas then finally granted to us poor Colonials...

We may be a technological backwater, but at least we have free Kindle downloads....

Bilbo1967 · 02-17-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dwallbaum

Well... .I kinda enjoy having Eurpoeans gripe about not getting a decent American product... the Japanese keep their good cars in country, you can't get a Polo or a SEAT in this country for anything. Virtually all the good electronics are first available overseas then finally granted to us poor Colonials...

We may be a technological backwater, but at least we have free Kindle downloads....

Yep - it's us sneaky foreigners refusing to sell to you that's the problem. Couldn't possibly be the protectionist import laws designed to boost the sales of inferior American products could it?

luvshihtzu · 02-18-2010, 06:03 PM

I have the Sony 505 and the Kindle DX and tried out one other crappy ereader a few months back. I don't see any reason to give up my Kindle because the font sizes are so much larger and better than the others. On my Sony I have to turn it horizontal to get a somewhat larger font (still not enough of an increase) and then I have problems with page turns. It just isn't enough. The Kindle is the perfect all around reader. I only buy a few ebooks from Amazon and still have plenty to read.

johnstu · 02-19-2010, 01:51 PM

Just to update everyone. I kept the kindle in the end.

I had it all packed up and went to the post office with it but when I was at the counter I decided I couldn't go through with returning it. It's now sitting with me in Heathrow airport as we set out on our first trip togethger.

kennyc · 02-19-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by johnstu

Just to update everyone. I kept the kindle in the end.

I had it all packed up and went to the post office with it but when I was at the counter I decided I couldn't go through with returning it. It's now sitting with me in Heathrow airport as we set out on our first trip togethger.

Thanks for the update! It's a great reader. Definitely one of the best at the moment as far as I'm concerned.

Enjoy!

lene1949 · 02-20-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by johnstu

Just to update everyone. I kept the kindle in the end.

I had it all packed up and went to the post office with it but when I was at the counter I decided I couldn't go through with returning it. It's now sitting with me in Heathrow airport as we set out on our first trip togethger.

Ahh... cute...

Can't wait to take my kindle on a trip to Denmark... Won't be for another year, though...

lene1949 · 02-20-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Thanks for the update! It's a great reader. Definitely one of the best at the moment as far as I'm concerned.

Enjoy!

Yes! The best!

kennyc · 02-20-2010, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lene1949

Yes! The best!

Ummm.....well, at least better than the other ones you have listed in your devices.

poshm · 02-20-2010, 06:45 AM

Nice that you decided to stick with it.

I have to say that the more I use my Kindle, the more I like it. In fact if it had folder support and I could just dump my entire Calibre library onto it as is then it would be my favourite device.

Interestingly, the Kindle is the only one I've never had freeze on me or had to reset so it seems pretty stable. Maybe I shouldn't have said that

kennyc · 02-20-2010, 06:49 AM

The folder support was the one really neat feature of the Astak Pocket Pro I had.

I do wish the Kindle and Sony had it.

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02-04-2010, 06:07 AM	#18
johnstu Member Posts: 19 Karma: 86 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Epsom, UK Device: Sony PRS505, iPhone, Kindle 2, iPad 2	Hi Lene, I did do research. I was planning to switch from the Sonys to the Kindle. The Sony still commands pretty good prices on ebay so I thought I'd be able to sell the 505 and give the 500 to a friend (after having it updated to accept epub). I think everything changed when Apple announced the iPad and their deal with the publishers. At that point my belief that Amazon would be able to maintain the prices it was currently offering disappeared. I think the release of the iPad has given the publishers a tremendous boost in their bargaining strength with Amazon. Having the whispernet was a major deciding factor in getting the Kindle but outside the USA that is only useful for books purchased from Amazon (because of the restriction on use of the Kindles internet browser internationally). If Amazon's books increase in cost as I feel the newly empowered publishers will demand then I will be forced to shop around more for books, which cannot be wirelessly delivered, losing the selling point of the Kindle. I am extremely grateful to everyone who has commented on this thread and helped me sort out my thoughts. I don't want to appear negative toward the kindle, I think it's a great device, just not right for me at the moment as the replacement for the Sony 505 that I thought it would be.

02-17-2010, 04:17 PM	#21
dwallbaum Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 77 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle2	Well... .I kinda enjoy having Eurpoeans gripe about not getting a decent American product... the Japanese keep their good cars in country, you can't get a Polo or a SEAT in this country for anything. Virtually all the good electronics are first available overseas then finally granted to us poor Colonials... We may be a technological backwater, but at least we have free Kindle downloads....

02-18-2010, 06:03 PM	#23
luvshihtzu Groupie Posts: 194 Karma: 39390 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tucson, Arizona Device: Kindle DX Graphite, Sony 950 and iPad	I have the Sony 505 and the Kindle DX and tried out one other crappy ereader a few months back. I don't see any reason to give up my Kindle because the font sizes are so much larger and better than the others. On my Sony I have to turn it horizontal to get a somewhat larger font (still not enough of an increase) and then I have problems with page turns. It just isn't enough. The Kindle is the perfect all around reader. I only buy a few ebooks from Amazon and still have plenty to read.

02-19-2010, 01:51 PM	#24
johnstu Member Posts: 19 Karma: 86 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Epsom, UK Device: Sony PRS505, iPhone, Kindle 2, iPad 2	Just to update everyone. I kept the kindle in the end. I had it all packed up and went to the post office with it but when I was at the counter I decided I couldn't go through with returning it. It's now sitting with me in Heathrow airport as we set out on our first trip togethger.

02-20-2010, 06:45 AM	#29
poshm Fanatic Posts: 581 Karma: 1003580 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cambs, UK Device: PocketBook 360, Sony Reader Touch, Ipod touch & Kindle 2	Nice that you decided to stick with it. I have to say that the more I use my Kindle, the more I like it. In fact if it had folder support and I could just dump my entire Calibre library onto it as is then it would be my favourite device. Interestingly, the Kindle is the only one I've never had freeze on me or had to reset so it seems pretty stable. Maybe I shouldn't have said that

02-20-2010, 06:49 AM	#30
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,895 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	The folder support was the one really neat feature of the Astak Pocket Pro I had. I do wish the Kindle and Sony had it.

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