iPad Apple Ipad Getting ripped apart online - Page 2

kjk · 01-29-2010, 11:25 AM

We just don't know, especially with iWork.

Remember, it isn't that the iPhone/Touch OS can't do multitasking-it most certainly can and does with some Apple apps.

What iPhone OS doesn't allow yet is THIRD PARTY apps to enable multitasking. iWork is an Apple app, if they think it is important to have it multitask with other apps, they will allow it to multitask with other apps.

wodin · 01-29-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kjk

We just don't know, especially with iWork.

Remember, it isn't that the iPhone/Touch OS can't do multitasking-it most certainly can and does with some Apple apps.

What iPhone OS doesn't allow yet is THIRD PARTY apps to enable multitasking. iWork is an Apple app, if they think it is important to have it multitask with other apps, they will allow it to multitask with other apps.

And there, McDuff, lies the rub! If THEY think .... THEY will allow ...

I don't want it to do what THEY want, I want it to do what I want! That has been my complaint with Apple since the Mac Plus, THEIR arrogance in thinking THEY can dictate to me what I want.

kissyfish · 01-29-2010, 12:44 PM

I am wondering if the above poster is misusing multitask, I am not understanding 'multitask with other apps' ? Are you talking compatibility?

I am going to get an ipad, I hate having too many gadgets, right now I have an ipod touch, and a mac (mainly my wife's machine). I wanted something small and maintenance free to just listen to podcasts, stream the bbc, and do emails on, and the ipod touch fit this bill nicely.

I also have stacks of paper I would love to be able to have with me at all times, for reference and such, I have had an iliad, prs-505 and prs-900. They all were fairly lackluster in their pdf displaying (for my needs and IMHO).

While I love eink for a display, and the long battery life, the ability for me to consolidate my gadgets down yet further, and properly display pdfs in near real size is the deal-maker for me.

Multitask? I rarely do, I am more linear by nature
Reading on lcd - I will have to accept this downside

I have found that apple products (don't get me wrong, I dislike the closedness, as I prefer linux/unix really) are better than the sum of their parts, as they look to the whole experience of the product, and that is their secret sauce, the price for that kind of experience delivery/control unfortunately seems to be a somewhat closed ecosystem.

I dislike it, but I have grown to want my computer to just do the things I need, but do them well with little extra fuss or administration.

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kjk · 01-29-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodin

And there, McDuff, lies the rub! If THEY think .... THEY will allow ...

I don't want it to do what THEY want, I want it to do what I want! That has been my complaint with Apple since the Mac Plus, THEIR arrogance in thinking THEY can dictate to me what I want.

I find it difficult to believe you've had the same complaint since the Mac Plus. Any rational person would have moved on to a different company by at least the time the Cube came out

No one promised you Apple products would be what you want or need, or designed for you specifically. But Apple isn't the only company out there doing computers, phones, or tablets.

kjk · 01-29-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kissyfish

Multitask? I rarely do, I am more linear by nature

I really think this is the key with the iPhone OS approach-it was obvious from the iPad demos that the "one screen paradigm" was the focus.

Everyone assumes the iPhone uses that paradigm because of the total lack of screen real-estate. The iPad shows that it is the new paradigm, period, for Apple's mobile OS.

Will that please everyone? Of course not. People accustomed to having 5-6 programs running at once, juggling them around, etc... are obviously not the target market.

But for those who work more like you, it is going to be THE way to interact with devices in the future. I can't wait to see how it all develops.

wodin · 01-29-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjk

I find it difficult to believe you've had the same complaint since the Mac Plus. Any rational person would have moved on to a different company by at least the time the Cube came out

No one promised you Apple products would be what you want or need, or designed for you specifically. But Apple isn't the only company out there doing computers, phones, or tablets.

Which is exactly why I've never owned an Apple product, and largely avoid Apple software. The exception being QuickTime, and that only because I occasionally want to watch a *.mov file.

kjk · 01-29-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodin

Which is exactly why I've never owned an Apple product, and largely avoid Apple software. The exception being QuickTime, and that only because I occasionally want to watch a *.mov file.

Well, the iPad will continue your lucky streak then

philophobos · 01-30-2010, 08:20 PM

Before it January 27 I thought I'd buy one of these. After the launch, nah! Forget it, too many missing features: no multitasking, no camera, no flash. You pay a minimum of $500 and you're locked with Apple. The only good thing Apple did with this launch was to set a price tag that the competition will try to beat with lower prices or with better devices. I'll wait for MSI to come up with their $5oo tablet on Android OS and a processor that will make the iPad look like a nice device from the nineties.

http://phandroid.com/2010/01/29/msi-...ablet-harmony/

TallMomof2 · 01-30-2010, 11:00 PM

Heck, if you want a Mac OS netbook, get a Dell Mini 10v and it's not too difficult to load OSX on it. It works well and even with my large hands the 10v is pretty easy to type on. If you're feeling adventurous try these guides.

Alpha_Cluster · 01-30-2010, 11:10 PM

You know what I think the lack of flash is a blessing! None of those stupid ads will show up. Any real site will be making html5 available by the end od this year. Plus so you really want to superheat you iPad? Last I checked running flash likes to steal lots of CPU cycles.

More to the point though the iPhone has has 'multitasking' for ages it's called push notification. I mean how often do you not have an app full screen on a netbook? Not to mention did you. Not see now fast that thing screams? I would never want to slow it down with 'multitasking' and flash.

BWhite · 01-30-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thebigalphamale

I was thinking it might be my 1st apple device...esp with the lower than what I had expected them to price it at... but... now that its out... it lacks a lot and its getting ripped apart by many gadget/electronic/reviewing sites....all these titles were from digg top and popular news stories in the last 24 hours... maybe after jailbreaking it...and hacking it... but why does apple make it so hard...ill be looking forward some competition in the near future... what do you all think...

I think you need to ignore the editorial content of the writers on the tech gadget sites. I spend a lot of time there myself, but....

Have you seen pictures of those guys working? They have a laptop and one or two smartphones, per blogger. They are writing 'Apple has given me no reason to step out the door with the iPad' - well of course not, come up with a list of functionality and between their smartphones and laptop they are already carrying gear that probably covers 100% of functionality.

But you are probably not a writer for a tech gadget site - so come up with your own list versus gear you currently own and see if there exists room for an iPad in your life.

BWhite · 01-30-2010, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philophobos

You pay a minimum of $500 and you're locked with Apple.

Are you saying 'locked with Apple' in regards to eBooks; because there are threads on MobileRead arguing just this point.

Conclusion:
No one knows for sure what the coming of iBooks means, you can only speculate. Argue/Discuss any way you want. All you can do is side with one camp or the other.

philophobos · 01-31-2010, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWhite

Are you saying 'locked with Apple' in regards to eBooks; because there are threads on MobileRead arguing just this point.

No, I was saying 'locked with Apple' dot point. e/iBooks and the rest.

BWhite · 01-31-2010, 05:17 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/we...ew/31lohr.html

The NY Times Article speaks to "design restraint" versus "featuritis".

Bremen Cole · 01-31-2010, 06:02 PM

When the iPad is actually out, and matured a bit... I may get one.

If I get one it would replace my notebook and ereader. Heck, my iphone could just about replace my notebook and ereader, but the screen is so small.....

The iPad is not for everyone, but for many (like me) it could be really good. I use my laptop for what MOST people use a computer for. Internet, email, photos, .....leisure activities. All "serious" stuff I do on my desktop. I want a device I can do those leisure things on that is portable, instant on, easy to use, easy to hold, and cost about as much as an "average" laptop. The fact that I could watch a movie on it or read a book.... thats icing on the cake....

If I wanted a full on computer experience with Windows 7, or OSX... I would buy something else.

01-29-2010, 11:25 AM	#16
kjk . Posts: 3,408 Karma: 5647231 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: never enough	We just don't know, especially with iWork. Remember, it isn't that the iPhone/Touch OS can't do multitasking-it most certainly can and does with some Apple apps. What iPhone OS doesn't allow yet is THIRD PARTY apps to enable multitasking. iWork is an Apple app, if they think it is important to have it multitask with other apps, they will allow it to multitask with other apps.

01-29-2010, 12:44 PM	#18
kissyfish Connoisseur Posts: 52 Karma: 13918 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Irex Iliad	I am wondering if the above poster is misusing multitask, I am not understanding 'multitask with other apps' ? Are you talking compatibility? I am going to get an ipad, I hate having too many gadgets, right now I have an ipod touch, and a mac (mainly my wife's machine). I wanted something small and maintenance free to just listen to podcasts, stream the bbc, and do emails on, and the ipod touch fit this bill nicely. I also have stacks of paper I would love to be able to have with me at all times, for reference and such, I have had an iliad, prs-505 and prs-900. They all were fairly lackluster in their pdf displaying (for my needs and IMHO). While I love eink for a display, and the long battery life, the ability for me to consolidate my gadgets down yet further, and properly display pdfs in near real size is the deal-maker for me. Multitask? I rarely do, I am more linear by nature Reading on lcd - I will have to accept this downside I have found that apple products (don't get me wrong, I dislike the closedness, as I prefer linux/unix really) are better than the sum of their parts, as they look to the whole experience of the product, and that is their secret sauce, the price for that kind of experience delivery/control unfortunately seems to be a somewhat closed ecosystem. I dislike it, but I have grown to want my computer to just do the things I need, but do them well with little extra fuss or administration. </diatribe>

01-30-2010, 08:20 PM	#23
philophobos Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Kobo, iPad, waiting for other pad/slate devices	Before it January 27 I thought I'd buy one of these. After the launch, nah! Forget it, too many missing features: no multitasking, no camera, no flash. You pay a minimum of $500 and you're locked with Apple. The only good thing Apple did with this launch was to set a price tag that the competition will try to beat with lower prices or with better devices. I'll wait for MSI to come up with their $5oo tablet on Android OS and a processor that will make the iPad look like a nice device from the nineties. http://phandroid.com/2010/01/29/msi-...ablet-harmony/

01-30-2010, 11:00 PM	#24
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	Heck, if you want a Mac OS netbook, get a Dell Mini 10v and it's not too difficult to load OSX on it. It works well and even with my large hands the 10v is pretty easy to type on. If you're feeling adventurous try these guides.

01-30-2010, 11:10 PM	#25
Alpha_Cluster Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: PRS-505, Libre2	You know what I think the lack of flash is a blessing! None of those stupid ads will show up. Any real site will be making html5 available by the end od this year. Plus so you really want to superheat you iPad? Last I checked running flash likes to steal lots of CPU cycles. More to the point though the iPhone has has 'multitasking' for ages it's called push notification. I mean how often do you not have an app full screen on a netbook? Not to mention did you. Not see now fast that thing screams? I would never want to slow it down with 'multitasking' and flash.

01-31-2010, 05:17 PM	#29
BWhite Connoisseur Posts: 97 Karma: 526 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Sony PSP, Palm TX	http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/we...ew/31lohr.html The NY Times Article speaks to "design restraint" versus "featuritis".

01-31-2010, 06:02 PM	#30
Bremen Cole Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 2718 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Device: iPad	When the iPad is actually out, and matured a bit... I may get one. If I get one it would replace my notebook and ereader. Heck, my iphone could just about replace my notebook and ereader, but the screen is so small..... The iPad is not for everyone, but for many (like me) it could be really good. I use my laptop for what MOST people use a computer for. Internet, email, photos, .....leisure activities. All "serious" stuff I do on my desktop. I want a device I can do those leisure things on that is portable, instant on, easy to use, easy to hold, and cost about as much as an "average" laptop. The fact that I could watch a movie on it or read a book.... thats icing on the cake.... If I wanted a full on computer experience with Windows 7, or OSX... I would buy something else.

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